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Joseph Robert:
Welcome to show everybody. Joseph Robert Khamou, the Fantasy Football Counselor in the studio, or online here with Tim a.k.a the Bald Man. What’s happening, Tim?
Tim Boyer :
Not much, man. I am bald and I just shaved her tonight. I’m looking sweet.
Joseph Robert:
It looks fresh, Tim. It really looks good, and good episode here today, a great episode. We’re talking about fresh faces new places, or new places for old faces. Either way, there’s a lot of moves going on with the free agency, the trades, the moves, and we’ve got to talk about the fantasy impact from Aaron Rogers to Russell Wilson to JuJu even. We’re going to talk about it somewhat. We’re going to touch on some of the major moves around the NFL, NFL news and notes. And of course the main thing we’re focusing on is the Fantasy Impact. Tim, are you pumped? Are you ready to go?
Tim Boyer :
Exactly. So, you just hit on it too, Fantasy Impact. That’s what matters most to us. So yes, there have been a lot of moves, a lot of guys moving places, pick up new guys, new contracts, blah, blah, blah. We’re going to hit on the most fantasy relevant. We’ll probably talk a little bit about some of these other guys that… Fantasy. They might just make a lateral move. It’s not going to be that big a deal. We’re not going to hit too much on those guys. But if you want more info, send a comment and we’ll try to hit on them the next episode.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. Hit up on the comments, guys. Ask questions. Tim’s going to dive into the comments as well. He likes to dive in and hear you talking anyway. Hear the back and forth chat.
Tim Boyer :
And just a little warning here, there’s definitely going to be some swearing, because some of these moves are really stupid.
Joseph Robert:
Who do you want to start off? There are so many moves. I want everybody prepared for Fantasy Impact.
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Deshaun Watson Signs with the Browns:
Watson Joins the Browns
Tim Boyer :
So, one of the biggest, one of the most talked-about, but still, a lot of controversy around this guy has to be Deshaun Watson.
Joseph Robert:
Absolutely.
Tim Boyer :
I mean so let’s make this point right off the get-go. So, he has been cleared criminally of any wrongdoing. However, he still has several lawsuits against him. The NFL is still looking into it. There are charges… they’re not charges anymore, because there’s no criminal intent here. However, he’s still being looked at for sexual assault allegations. He may miss a lot of time, man. So, he’s going to Cleveland. Huge deal. What did we say? 230, 240 million?
Joseph Robert:
230 million, I think all of it is guaranteed over five years, I believe.
Tim Boyer :
So, let’s just say great move if everything turns out well and he doesn’t miss any time, it is an amazing pickup. Definitely a major upgrade at quarterback. However, fantasy-wise, I don’t see it helping a lot of the Cleveland players. There are a lot of mouths there to feed.
Joseph Robert:
People are going to disagree with you on that. This is a huge upgrade at quarterback.
Tim Boyer :
It is a huge upgrade at quarterback. I said that. I’m not doubting that. This is great for the team, but as far as fantasy goes, dude, Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, need I say much more? How is this really going to make anybody else that much bigger?
Joseph Robert:
Well, I mean you’ve got Amari Cooper there, who I think should see more targets. The problem with him, he was stuck there with Gallup, CeeDee Lamb. And again-
Tim Boyer :
No, dude, we talked about this off-screen. There’s no frigging way. You used to hate Amari. You used to bash this guy. He went to Dallas, he had a few good games in a row and then just kind of… He’s up and down and up and down.
Joseph Robert:
Depending on his ADP, he might be valued, because I think Deshaun Watson could really ignite him. David Njoku’s there as well at tight end. He’s kind of had his share of injuries throughout the past. So, again, you’ve got Donovan Peoples-Jones, definitely Deshaun Watson gives these guys an inflation. The question is how much of an inflation? That’s what we’ve got to look at. And then you’ve got the running game with Nick Chubb, you’ve got Kareem Hunt there, he’s going to catch the ball in the backfield.
Joseph Robert”
And you’ve got to understand, Deshaun Watson likes to run, right? So, that may or may not affect the receivers. I think it may affect the receivers in regards to less passing attempts. So, again, you got to look at Deshaun Watson in an entirely new arena, right? So, things are going to change. Again, I’m not overly excited. A lot of people are giddy about this, about Amari Cooper. I’m not, but I definitely see some upside here, Tim. I definitely do.
Tim Boyer :
I don’t know. For me, Amari, it’s a lateral movement. I don’t see him being this clear-cut number one guy who’s going to step in and receive 150 targets, anything even close to that. Well, you know what? I shouldn’t say that. He might be close to that, but I still don’t see it being a huge difference in his value. I don’t see him automatically shooting up to a first-round pick, anything that crazy.
Joseph Robert:
Okay. So, let me put this in perspective. Back in 2019 when Deshaun Watson was playing, 495 attempts that year, 26 touchdowns, 12 interception. So, that put him, in 2019, 16th in passing attempts. So, I’m not expecting a whole ton of volume to his wide receivers. That’s going to be a big issue. Then I pull up the Houston Texans wide receivers for that year. Let’s go back in 2019, the biggest guy was DeAndre Hopkins. And you’ve got to remember, Deshaun Watson made DeAndre Hopkins an amazing wide receiver. 150 targets, 104 receptions, but that’s DeAndre Hopkins, right?
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. I wouldn’t say Deshaun made DeAndre Hopkins. I think it’s a team thing there.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, for sure. But either way, Hopkins thrived under Deshaun Watson. So, you’ve got to take that under consideration. And again, Will Fuller was a second that year in 2019, with 71 targets, right? Compared to DeAndre Hopkins at 150, and then there was Kenny Stills and a bunch of other guys. Keke Coutee was in there too. Do you remember Keke Coutee?
Tim Boyer :
I remember that name, the Coutee.
Joseph Robert:
Coutee, yeah. So, you look at that and you’re like, “Okay, maybe if he just hones in on Amari Cooper, this could be big.” And again, I’m not excited-
Tim Boyer :
But he’s not going to, man. There are too many decent guys there to worry about. And Chubb and Hunt alone are a major factors.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, it’s going to be interesting. It’s going to be interesting to see how this offense run. It’s so weird because your mind is so set on like the different… Like Cooper’s always been like Dallas, right? And I’m just trying to wrap my head around the new faces and new places, right?
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. I personally don’t see this being a skyrocket for any one individual on the team.
Joseph Robert:
Well, it’s going to be interesting to see. Again, you’ve got to-
Tim Boyer :
I see the ball being spread. I see it a great move for the team. I mean let’s face it, Baker sucked ass. Came in highly touted, and it didn’t correlate over to the NFL. He had great numbers in college and he just couldn’t put it together here. And he had really good guys too.
Joseph Robert:
A lot of controversy around this saying… I think they were saying, I don’t know if it was a coach or something, I don’t want to quote it verbatim, I don’t know how it was said, but the Browns were looking for a adult type QB. I don’t know, I heard it somewhere. And, again, with Baker out, there’s obviously some controversy and some media hype saying, “Well, Watson’s really not an adult.” And there’s a chance that he could, again, with these civil suits. I think there’s like 22.
Again, I don’t know the exact number and I don’t know the legalities. I think there are like 20 plus civil suits with these sexual allegations. And then you’ve got Jacoby Brissett they brought in as a backup. They signed him as well, I believe, in case, guys, in case Watson does in fact get suspended. It could be anywhere from two, four, six, eight games. We don’t know. So, there’s some drama behind this, nothing stands still here. It’s moving. There are a lot of moving parts.
Tim Boyer :
You need to be careful with him right now because there definitely is. I would say there is a high likelihood he’s going to miss some time.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. So again, that’s the Fantasy Impact, boom or bust. I’m probably dodging it. I’m going to stay away. And again, it’s up to you guys. If Amari Cooper’s value, there could be some upside there, but again, I’m not excited. I stay away from that committee with Dick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. So, personally for me, Tim, I’m staying away. What about you?
Tim Boyer :
Absolutely. I totally agree. The only guys I would look at, like you say, value. This is all you’re looking at here is, are any of these guys worth of a value pick? Hunt and Chubb, same sort of deal. I’m still more of a Hunt guy, because he is the receiving back. So, if I’m going to spend anything, I’m going to spend that fourth-round pick on Hunt. I’m not going to take Chubb in the first or early second. No frigging way.
Joseph Robert:
Absolutely. And Kareem Hunt is known to outscore them in PPR, which is one of the most famous platforms, right? The most popular is the PPR. So, that’s that situation. Who else are we talking about here? Some new faces and places.
Davante Adams to the Raiders and the Fantasy Outlook
Adams Targets may be limited
Tim Boyer :
There are obviously a couple of other huge ones. Let’s hit Davante Adams before we hit Russell Wilson. So, Davante Adams to Vegas.
Joseph Robert:
Okay. So, this is a big move obviously here. Now there was some talk that, I even posted about and I was kind of mistaken to some degree that Aaron Rogers was greedy, but apparently the Packers did put up a lot of money to try to keep Adams. But I don’t know if he was really happy there. And then he’s reuniting from his college days with Derek Carr. And Derek Carr, he is to wow me, I’m not wowed. And it’s a tough division he is in.
He’s stuck with Herbert and Mahomes and that crew with Russell Wilson on that side. But there’s no excuses for the Raiders, because there is so much upside here. Hunter Renfrow finished 10th last year amongst wide receivers. He’s a PPR monster. He was good. Now he’s got, Adams. So, theoretically, it should be a Carr/Adam’s connection, but you’ve got Renfrow and you had Waller’s coming off a bad year last year. I think he was hurt. I’ve got to take a back and look here. I think Waller… how many games has Waller-
Tim Boyer :
I think he played nine or 10 if I’m remembering correctly.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, I see him here at 11 games last season. So, I mean if he’s back full season, is Adam’s going to get the volume that he had with Green Bay? And then you’re getting a downgrade at quarterback, a significant downgrade. So, people can debate that.
Tim Boyer :
I’m not saying a significant-
Joseph Robert:
But Carr?
Tim Boyer :
Okay. And remember though, these guys were in college together. So, everybody keeps on talking about that too. These two had an amazing year together when they were in college. But guess what? That was a hundred years ago, people.
Joseph Robert:
Exactly. It was a while ago. Derek Carr’s rookie season was 2014.
Tim Boyer :
Thank you.
Joseph Robert:
It was a while ago, yes.
Tim Boyer :
Anyways, these guys have had an amazing connection. They both set records in the one year when they were together in college. Can they remake that? I don’t think so. I think Carr can still air that ball out, man. He’s good for 4,000 plus yards every year. There’s no doubt about it. Davantes going to get a lot of that. However, Carr has always been a tight-end go-to type guy. So, that’s not going to change. Waller’s still going to be there. Waller’s going to get a fair amount of catches. He’s going to get some touchdowns. Josh Jacobs is going to be there. He’s going to be running. He can catch. He’s going to get a fair amount. Davante Adams is still going to be great. He is not going to get Green Bay numbers, because he is not going to see the kind of touchdowns that he saw before.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, definitely. I just don’t see the volume. Do you see the volume being there? I mean Derek Carr threw, what? 600? Derek Carr throws. He throws 606 times.
Tim Boyer :
He does.
Joseph Robert:
He throws 4,800 yards last year.
Tim Boyer :
The yards are always there, man. He’s got an arm, but yes, Davante Adams is not going to see 1,500 yards and 14 touchdowns. This is not going to happen.
Joseph Robert:
Look at Derek Carr, 23 touchdowns last year, the year before 27, the year before 21, and the year before that in 2018, he had 19 touchdowns. He’s not a touchdown throwing-
Tim Boyer :
And if you look at those, most of them probably went to the tight end as far as the receiving touchdowns. Other than that, it’s the running backs.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. So, that’s a big point. I didn’t even look at that before going into this, because, again, this is all new stuff right now, I’m starting to look at now. But once we get talking about this, it puts it in perspective. And here’s the thing, Adams is going to go at the end of the first round, he’s going first round in fantasy drafts. They’re going to think, again, the mainstream are going to have him top three, four, wide receiver and people are going to draft him in the first round, unfortunately. And I think he’s going to significantly decline. Maybe even outside the top 10, Tim. I mean that’s a bit of a stretch, but maybe.
Tim Boyer :
It’s going to come down to those touchdowns. Does he get the touchdown numbers? Does he hit those double digits in the touchdowns? If so, he’s still worthy of a late first round pick, early second. I mean no matter what, I think he’s worth a second-round pick still. I think he’s going to have the yardage. He’s going to have the receptions. Touchdowns is going to be the big question mark here.
Joseph Robert:
Well, last year, Tim, he only had 11 touchdowns last year and still finished second amongst wide receivers. Now he did make up-
Tim Boyer :
But what did he have in yards and how many receptions?
Joseph Robert:
Well, 1,553 yards. And he had what? 123 receptions on 169 targets. I don’t see him seeing 169 targets.
Tim Boyer :
No. No, no, no. It’s not going to get that high. It’s going to be pretty substantial. He can’t match it, I don’t think so.
Joseph Robert:
And I’m just trying to find here, I’m reaching here, but I really want to find out like Hunter Renfrow had 128 targets. He was their top receiver last year. So, again, I’m just trying to look back here to see, even going back to 2020, I’m just diving in here real quick. Nelson Agholor was the number one wide receiver in 2020.
Tim Boyer :
What?
Joseph Robert:
And he only had 82 targets. And then let me look at the tight end, it was Waller with 145 targets. And again, even at 145 targets, now Waller’s still there and you’ve got Adams. I just don’t see the targets being there. There’s no way.
Tim Boyer :
No, not the number that he had in Green Bay. No.
Joseph Robert:
No. Okay. So, there you go guys, Fantasy Impact. I’m personally not… Are you drafting him in the first round? Do you care for Adams this year? I don’t.
Tim Boyer :
No, because I hate to say it, but I like to follow your strategy where I’m going running back first. If it’s late first and Davante is there. Oh God, I got to think about it, man. It depends on who else is on the board.
Joseph Robert:
What did you do last? Did you not go robust on me last year?
Tim Boyer :
No, I think you’re thinking two years ago where I grabbed a couple of decent wide receivers first, but then a frigging injury.
Joseph Robert:
You had no running back a couple of years ago.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. Last year I think I took one of the top guys who ended up getting injured and missing the majority of the year. Like just bullshit. I hate it.
Joseph Robert:
Absolutely. All right, what other big names are we-
Russell Wilson to the Denver Broncos and Fantasy Outlook
Wilson will get fresh legs in Denver
Tim Boyer :
Okay. I mean you’ve got to talk about Russell. Russell’s definitely the next biggest one to talk about.
Joseph Robert:
All right, Tim. I know you’re not as excited as I am about this one, but Russell Wilson, and you’re not talking him up like he’s good. This is a guy that when he is going, he is playing a full season, he’s a top-five quarterback. He finishes there. He’s got the feet. You’re not that high on him, and he’s got two really good receivers.
Tim Boyer :
Hmm…
Joseph:
Jeudy was a high top… Let me finish. Jeudy was a top prospect coming in. This guy has not got it going. He’s had injuries, he had shitty quarterbacks thrown to him. Now he’s got an upgrade at quarterback and Courtland Sutton could be a touchdown machine. This could be a good office. And the young Javonte Williams.
Tim, I’m excited about this offense. And I think Russell Wilson’s going to be, based on value, an absolute steal. I think he’s like what? 10th on the consensus ranking, he’s 11th right now. I think he’ll be slept on. He’s going to finish top five amongst quarterbacks, full season in.
Tim Boyer :
Listen, I agree with you. My problem here is their young receivers. So, yes, Russell Wilson is a great pickup and he’s a huge leap forward for the team. They gave up a lot to get him, so they’re expecting him to be the glue. They’re expecting him to feed these guys. As you said, Javonte is a nice young prospect as well. I think a lot of this can happen. It’s just going to be, can Russell get these guys on the same page with him? Definitely a huge upgrade. And I agree with you, he could be a top-five quarterback, no doubt about it. Can Jeudy be that guy that’s going to grab 120 catches this year? Yeah, he could, but it’s questionable. So, I’m concerned.
Joseph Robert:
Jeudy last year, 56 targets, 38 receptions, zero touchdowns, 467 receiving yards, only with 10 games. And it was a mess at quarterback between Bridgewater, Lock. There was no chemistry there. It was a disaster. They obviously invested very high in Russell Wilson. They want to win. This is a team that wants to win. I think the receivers, if healthy, I think Courtland Sutton and Jeudy, are very capable receivers. If they stay healthy on the field, everything’s got to gel for these guys. If so, this could be a very special Fantasy Impact and a team in general, I think.
Tim Boyer :
I think it’s great for the team. I don’t know if this is going to be the year. It might have to wait till next year where they really define themselves as a team, but huge upgrade. Definitely some potential here. If they’re value picks, great. I mean if Jeudy’s still going, geez, I don’t know, man. I mean I’d be tempted, I guess, around the third or fourth for Jeudy. I wouldn’t go any higher than that.
Joseph Robert:
I’m just going to take a look here real quickly. When I look at wide receivers, I want to see where the Consheepsus have him. I’m going to pull this up in PPR. Jerry Jeudy is currently seeing 22nd amongst the consensus, the Consheepsus-
Tim Boyer :
So, that’s probably putting him about the fourth or fifth round.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, I think he’d be good value. Now, but again, you’re in that situation where we don’t really know who the wide receiver one is. We don’t know the rapport with these guys. I mean, Sutton, could he be viewed as a DK Metcalf for Russell Wilson? And the other guy is like a Lockett? Because Sutton is the bigger guy.
And then again, Sutton could be a value, because I think Sutton… where is Sutton ranked? Sutton’s ranked 33rd on the consensus. So, the Consheepsus is banking on the youth here, and I am kind of leaning Jeudy, especially in PPR, I think he’ll get more receptions. But again, both of these guys could be an absolute steal. Really, this could be the steals of the draft, honestly. One of them anyway.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, exactly. One of these guys is going to propel themselves to the clear-cut wide receiver one, and I’m leaning towards Jeudy as well.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, I think so as well. And you look at a guy like Russell, I think, where is he sitting? He’s sitting 11th on the consensus, as I said earlier. They’ve got Jalen Hurts, Stafford, Dak Prescott, Rodgers, ahead of him. Again, I think he could be a steal. If healthy, if he goes gets those rushing touchdowns in there as well. It’s going to be interesting to see how he does in a new place, really.
Mitch Trubisky fantasy outlook in Pittsburgh
Mitch to the Steelers is not exciting for fantasy football
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. So, let’s move on to what I think is a horrible one, or things are looking rough right now for this team. And so here comes some swearing, Mitch Trubisky.
Joseph Robert:
Oh, yeah.
Tim Boyer :
And it’s like, what the heck Pittsburgh? You’re going from the ogre to this clown? No. You have just doomed your team to a year of hell. Plain and simple. If they don’t have another quarterback that they’re really eyeing up, and Trubisky is your starter, you’re dicked.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. I’m a big Mitch Trubisky hater, and my standards are high, especially for fantasy football. Now he could be an efficient quarterback just to kind of move the ball down the field, get it done. I don’t think he’s a full long term solution. And here’s my mentality, and I’m wearing the lion mentality shirt ironically. So, Tim, here’s of thinking, and maybe you can understand my way of thinking. He didn’t do well on the Bears.
Now you can say it was a coaching issue, whatever. So, he ends up on the Bills as a backup. And here’s my mentality. I know Josh Allen is great, but hear me out. If you are amazing, if you’re a starting quarterback, you would start over Josh Allen. Well, you’re like, “Well, how? Josh Allen’s good.” I know that’s what people want to say, but here’s my mentality. Like the Steelers, I know they need a quarterback, but I’m not going to cherry-pick someone else’s backup.
I’m, with my lion mentality, looking for a guy who’s better than Josh Allen. And I know it’s hard because Josh Allen’s really good, but that’s the mentality. And don’t get somebody’s backup to start on your team. Does that make sense? Do you see my mentality?
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, of course.
Joseph Robert:
He’s a backup.
Tim Boyer :
And no matter what, if you are going after someone’s backup, it’s not Mitch Trubisky, man.
Joseph Robert:
I’m not excited.
Tim Boyer :
No, there’s been nothing there. And Pitts lost some of their greatest players. So now, once again, they’re in a situation where they’ve got young guys. And now you’ve got Trubisky with these young guys. Trubisky who’s been crap for what? Five years or better, trying to get these young guys going. No, I think you’ve just doomed everybody on that team.
Joseph Robert:
I’m just pulling up Trubisky stats. Since 2017 he’s really done nothing. I mean from a fantasy perspective anyway. I know the Steelers, the coach Tomlin is good. They’ve got some good receivers with Diontae Johnson. They’ve got Najee Harris who can pound the ball. I think he’s very talented. Obviously need to improve that O line, because it would be a disaster for Mitch. Because again, Big Ben knew how to run that offense better, could get the ball out of his hands quicker. But Mitch Trubisky has absolutely done nothing. His pinnacle year was 24 touchdowns, 12 interceptions with Chicago in 2018. He threw for what? 3,223 yards. That was his best year man, with 263 fantasy points.
Tim Boyer :
I know.
Joseph Robert:
He’s done nothing. Nothing.
Tim Boyer :
That’s why I’m saying like, what the fuck? You’ve just doomed your team. You better have your eyes on someone better than this guy to come in. Please tell me you picked him up as your backup, and if you really run into some crap, he’ll be your starter. If not, then all those guys are screwed.
Joseph Robert:
I hope they’re looking at a quarterback they can groom in the draft. Because, again, I mean he was a first-round, second overall pick back at 2017 out of North Carolina. Trubisky had high expectations, but he’s had his opportunity. If you’ve had, what, five years in the league right now and you’ve done nothing, there’s a pretty good chance you’re really not that good.
Tim Boyer :
Within those five years, you’ve been relegated to a backup.
Joseph Robert:
Yes.
Tim Boyer :
You’re not a guy. You’re not the guy. I’m sorry.
Joseph Robert:
I’m not seeing it. I’m just not excited about this. And again, that could really affect Diontae Johnson’s value, which is a concern. And I’m really on the fence whether I want to draft him. I’ve got to get him for a steal of a deal, Diontae. I’m just not paying it. And he’s higher this year because last year he was a bit lower and I was getting him in the third or fourth round. Now he is actually higher because he had a good year last year. He’s 12th on the Consheepsus rankings. He’s getting a significant downgrade at quarterback. So, it’s going to be very interesting to see how high he goes, and will he perform on the level of last year? Without Big Ben, I’m questioning it?
Tim Boyer :
Absolutely. Yeah. I think everybody is screwed this year on that team. The only one that might maintain would be Najee.
Joseph Robert:
Najee, just from volume and they’re going to run the ball more, and he might be an outlet. Unless, again, that could affect his PPR numbers if Mitch is not checking down and throwing the ball to him either. Something to keep an eye on as well. So, again, I’m not excited. We’re going to have to see what happens after the NFL draft. Maybe if they make some solid O-line improvements and we started hearing some good stuff in the preseason. Again, I’m not drafting Mitch at all. I’m more concerned about Diontae right now.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. I would be too. I’d be looking at their receivers. They had some nice young guys and now you’ve just put Mitch in. He’s not a guy to lead these young fellows. No way.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. Those are my only concerns, the situations with Diontae and Najee Harris’s reception value. That’s my concern. So, we’ll have to see how it plays out.
Tim Boyer :
Okay. So, to me, those were like your big, big things to talk about. Of course, there have been a lot of other small moves. Mind you, some of them with big, big contracts still. So, let’s hit on a couple of these other guys that, to me, are just-
Robert Woods to the Titans and the Fantasy Football Impact
A safe fantasy football player in Titans land
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. Kind of lateral movements. So, Robert Woods to the Titans.
Joseph Robert:
I mean I was thinking about this. Again, a similar situation with some other quarterbacks we talked about with the low volume. You’re looking at a guy that, Taylor doesn’t throw a lot, Derrick Henry’s coming back. They run the ball a lot. I mean if you look at the attempts, Derrick Henry played eight games, he was top 10 in rushing attempts. So, they’re going to run the ball a lot. AJ Brown’s there. I mean this could be a guy that’s just going to be a safe pick, that’s just going to get it done. He is going to stay on the field, hopefully, if he’s healthy, and probably finish top 20, 25 maybe, but I’m not overly excited about this.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. I 100% agree. Like I say, to me, it’s a lateral movement. I don’t see any improvement in his fantasy numbers. You nailed it. It’s Derrick Henry’s team, man. That’s all that needs to be said really. AJ Brown, who cares? It doesn’t matter. I mean the touchdowns go to Henry. Yeah, you’re going to get some receiving yards, top out a thousand potentially. It’s not worth it. There are no big movements there.
Joseph Robert:
And here’s the funny thing. This is really weird. I don’t understand the Consheepsus, it’s like they’re trying to save face. So, I warned everybody against AJ Brown last year not getting the volume that he did, and he sucked last year. I don’t know where he finished. Where did he finish? I think he finished like 30th, 40th, amongst wide receivers.
I said, AJ Brown… I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m way off. Let me see. No, I’m not way off. I’m looking at 2020 here. Okay. AJ Brown, I’m just pulling it up here in the regular season. He had a bad year, man. He finished 32nd amongst wide receivers in PPR. This is a guy that everybody said was top 10. I said, “No, I don’t think the volume is going to be there.
Sure enough, it wasn’t. 105 targets, 63 receptions, five touchdowns. And he only played 13 games, so he missed some games. Either way, 32nd is pretty embarrassing considering he was top 10. And then the Consheepsus are saving face, he’s currently sitting seventh amongst wide receivers. And then, going back to the conversation we just had, look at a guy like Jeudy, a guy like Sutton you get for value, that could easily surpass AJ Brown in fantasy points. It’s crazy.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, it is nuts. There are times when guys just don’t cut it. Like how the hell can you have AJ that high, especially with the addition of Robert Woods? In fact I think Robert Woods is the number one on the team.
Joseph Robert:
Could be, yeah.
Tim Boyer :
I absolutely believe he is.
Joseph Robert:
And if anyone thinks you’re crazy for saying that, every mainstream magazine rankings, last year I knew Cooper Kupp would emerge. But here’s the thing, everyone had Robert Woods ranked ahead of Cooper Kupp last year, period. Any magazine, any… Hopefully, I have my magazine behind me. Keep talking, Tim, I’ve got to find my magazine.
Tim Boyer :
I don’t have much more to say about this situation. I mean, I’ve already said it. To me it’s a lateral movement. I don’t see a huge improvement in his fantasy value, but I do believe he’s going to show that he’s the wide receiver one on the team. Not that he’s going to take it by a huge margin.
Joseph Rober:
If you guys don’t believe me, here’s a magazine right here, Tim, can you see everything okay? Let me pull up my camera here again.
Tim Boyer :
I don’t even look at my camera when we’re talking.
Joseph Robert:
If you guys are listening in the car, I want you to take a look here. What I’m doing is I’m pulling up a Fantasy Football magazine. Can you see this, Tim? Hold up.
Tim Boyer :
Yep. It kind of comes and goes in focus, but it’s good.
Joseph Robert:
Robert Woods is 15th, and as you can see, Cooper Kupp, Tim, 22nd on the consensus. So, if you guys are listening in the car, I’ve got an ESPN magazine here and, again, this is across the board. Robert Woods was ranked ahead of Cooper Kupp. And now everybody is riding Cooper Kupp’s stick. Why? Because he finished on top, right? And here’s the thing, Tim, going back. Remember we had this, not argument, we were debating. Remember Michael Thomas in 2019 had that pinnacle year?
He had like this record year. Amazing. He was number one and everyone had him on top. I’m like, “Decline’s happening.” Sure enough, he got hurt. And you said, even if a decline happened, he’s still going to have enough points. But it’s like, I just don’t trust… he’s not going to finish. And I even said it on my Instagram, Tim, he’s not going to finish first overall amongst wide receivers, yet the mainstream still do. And if he does finish first, I’m quitting fantasy football. I’ve said it right here.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. I saw that.
Joseph Robert:
I quit.
Tim Boyer :
Well, so here’s one thing that drives me nuts about you though. Yes, a decline is a decline no matter how it’s brought about, I agree with you on that point. However, I don’t like saying that because a guy’s injured he declined. Yes, it’s true. However, if he played a full year, which was my point, I don’t look at an injury. So, if he played a full year, he would still be worthy of that first-round pick, even if it wasn’t that pinnacle year that he had.
I think I was even saying even if he lost 50 points off of that pinnacle year, he would still have probably been the wide receiver one, I believe. So, that is where I make the point. I said I would take him for sure. Absolutely. However, missing the amount of time he did, really affected him and really gave him the decline. And you can say the same about Kupp. Of course, when you hit that pinnacle, it’s hard to repeat that pinnacle or be even close to it. But Kupp has been good for several years now, especially with the TDs that he gets. So, I still think he’s a good guy to have. Am I going to spend a huge value on him? No. Because to me, it’s not worth it now. It’s a little too risky.
Joseph Robert:
Well, one thing that’s not factored in in fantasy, nobody talks about it, I don’t even know the proper terminology for it, but I think it’s just called law of averages. I think if there’s a bucket of garbage right over there, there’s like a little canister of garbage and I take this paper and I scrunch it up and I throw, let’s say I make nine out of 10 shots, right? The 10th shot, I may miss it. Like it’s the law of averages, right? With Cooper Kupp, and I factor in injuries. He had this pinnacle Cinderella year. There’s a chance… you get out there so many times, you’re increasing your chance of potentially getting hurt.
Joseph Robert Khamou:
So, the injury does play a factor in this stuff. So, I can stick injury. I take the fact that he had a pinnacle year, I take the fact that everything was going well for the Rams that year, they might have a Super Bowl hangover. I just, again, Cooper Kupp will not finish first overall. In fact, I see Ja’Marr Chase, I see a lot of people beating Cooper Kupp this year in fantasy points. He’s going to get hurt. I’m calling it. There it is.
Tim Boyer :
I hate when you do that. A lot of your fans are guys… I want to kill you when you say it, because he’s going to be injured.
Joseph Robert:
All right. Let’s move on here. Who is the next we’re talking about?
Christian Kirk Gets Overpaid in Jacksonville
Tim Boyer :
Here’s another absolutely ridiculous contract. Christian Kirk, 72 million over four years. What the fuck are you thinking? Are you kidding me?
Joseph Robert:
I don’t get it, man. The guy is good. He’s a good wide receiver.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, he’s good. Is he a wide receiver one, top 10 value? No.
Joseph Robert:
Like that. No. I think that shocked everybody. Even when I posted about it, everyone was like, “Yeah, you’re right, Joe, this is crazy.” Everyone was all over pathetic this is. I mean I don’t even know, what did he… Let me pull up his numbers here. Christian Kirk has been in the league since 2018. His pinnacle year… This guy has not even had one 1,000 receiving yard season. He’s peaked at six touchdowns in 2020. And you could say, “Well, the volume wasn’t there.” He has had Hopkins, lining up with Hopkins and better receivers, but he’s not worth it… What did he get paid? What was the agreement?
Tim Boyer :
72 million over four years.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. That’s ludicrous.
Tim Boyer :
So, not quite 20 million. Probably about 18 million.
Joseph Robert:
But still, I looked at it, he’s being paid more, as of right now, than guys like Tyreek Hill and other guys, like it’s crazy.
Tim Boyer :
It’s absolutely insane. What makes him worth more money on this team than James Robinson?
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, nothing.
Tim Boyer :
No. James Robinson should be getting 90 million then over four. Like, pull your heads out of your asses. These running backs, especially great guys, guys who take a pounding and are the workhorse, a guy like Robinson. This is why those guys need to make big dollars. They don’t have longevity, because they get used up. It’s like you’re saying, the law of averages, and here’s another guy you love to bang on, CMC. The problem is he’s overused. That’s why he’s getting injured now. He’s on the field so often, he’s taking so many huge hits.
Joseph Robert:
Law of averages.
Tim Boyer :
It’s going to happen. There’s no doubt about it. So, why does a dickhole like Kirk get 72 million over four years? James Robinson, who was underutilized last year and can handle a much larger load, doesn’t make that kind of money. It pissed me off. You bring in this guy and you give him more money than your great running back.
Joseph Robert:
Listen to this. His deal is 72 million over four years. Of that, 20 million is in the form of a signing bonus and a total of 37 million is fully guaranteed. So, listen to this. The max value of the contract with incentives is 84 million. He’s not worth a million dollars. He can get up to 84 million dollars with this deal.
Tim Boyer :
It’s frigging ridiculous. Jacksonville, what the hell? What are you doing?
Joseph Robert:
There are people starving in the streets of Los Angeles right now. There are people starving everywhere all over the world. You can feed many small cities with this type of money, and you’re paying a guy who hasn’t had one 1,000 yard receiving season after four years in the league. There are no excuses for this. And, again, I don’t know, man. Can he do well though in Fantasy Impact?
He gets the volume, but again, he is a wide receiver. Is he going to be able to handle the top corners? I don’t think so. They should have paid Chark that money, and Chark just moved too. D.J. Chark. I would’ve just kept Chark. Where did D.J. Chark go? I can’t even keep track of all this stuff. Let me just pull this up here. D.J. Chark is now with the Lions. Sorry. I should have known that. I knew that. So, he’s with the Lions, with Amon-Ra St. Brown. I would’ve probably just kept Chark. Chark has had his share of injuries throughout the years, but he’s a good receiver. He’s got some upside. I don’t see Kirk that much better than Chark.
Tim Boyer :
No. And let’s face it, the quarterback here isn’t throwing the ball that much. So, he’s not going to receive those big numbers. It’s whatever. To me, again, it’s a lateral movement. His numbers aren’t going to improve that grade. He’s not coming in to be this clear-cut wide receiver, 150 targets. It’s not happening. So, why give him this kind of money?
Joseph Robert:
They like burning money, Tim.
Tim Boyer :
Idiots. Idiots. You better use James Robinson better this year. That’s all I’ve got to say. I’m going to kill you guys.
Joseph Robert:
Well, Travis Etienne, the rookie that came in last year had that rapport in college with Trevor Lawrence. They drafted, I think at the end of the first round, and I pissed everybody off, but they ended up getting hurt. They did James Robinson wrong. He’s supposed to be back. I think he’s healing this year. He should be good to go. But again, it’s like, I don’t know, man, that offense suspect all around. I’m staying away from fantasy. I don’t even know if I trust James Robinson anymore. I don’t know.
Tim Boyer :
I should stop saying I want to kill you about this sort of stuff because I’m not really going to kill them. Some of you people actually need to be told that sort of stuff, which is ridiculous. But what I mean is I’m just so frustrated, it’s such a stupid move. Just pull your heads out of your asses.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, absolutely.
Tim Boyer :
Man, there are so many. I mean are you trying to cut me off already?
Joseph Robert:
No, no. We can keep going. I know you don’t want to talk about him, but I do. I don’t like him either.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, hit it.
JUJU Smith Fantasy Football Outlook with the Chiefs
Joseph Robert:
JuJu.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. Once again, who cares? Lateral movement. One year is not a big deal.
Joseph Robert:
I think it’s one year, 10 million. And then they’ve got Tyreek, they’ve got Kelce, I think Pringle and a couple of other guys got released, but either way, he’s going to be a wide receiver three at best. And they’ve got Hardman there, so maybe wide receiver four if you include Kelce. As I said, I don’t see any major value. He might get a touchdown here, or they might get a catch and run, a couple of big plays. He’s going to have a couple of possible boom games, as you know, with Patrick Mahomes throwing as much as he does. He’s got that big playability potential. But again, for fantasy, I don’t think the consistency is going to be there. I’m staying away.
Tim Boyer :
No, we always tell you guys basically stay away from Kansas City. There are just too many mouths to feed. Yeah, they’ve got a couple of good guys that you can look at if you want to pay that huge price. I never do. I don’t want to look at that huge price for these guys. Once again, the law of averages and things might happen, but I’m just not doing it. So, his move to KC doesn’t impress me at all. Who cares? He’s a background player basically, as far as I’m concerned.
Fantasy Football Sleeper 2020
Joseph Robert:
Robert Tonyan is coming back. I mean that could be good Fantasy Football Tight End
Tim Boyer :
Sorry, I keep on cutting you off because I’ve just got so much to say, especially Tonyan is a good tight end. He could have been even better last year. Now that you’ve lost Davante, who else is on that team to grab the ball? Lazard? Yeah, okay, he’s going to get some more targets, but to me, Tonyan even factors in bigger now.
Joseph Robert:
I think so, too, if he’s healthy. I know he got banged up, but I really like Tonyan. I’ve got to see what his ADP is going to be at this year. Try to pull that up while you’re talking here. But yeah, I think that Tonyan could be a steal at a-
Tim Boyer :
I mean as a tight end, he shouldn’t be going till a minimum of seven, but I would even be thinking later.
Joseph Robert:
The Consheepsus currently have him at, man, he’s low because he got hurt last year. Oh man, he’s going to be a steal. I don’t even see him here in the rankings in the top 20.
Tim Boyer :
That’ll be a joke, man. Then he is a definite pickup, even-
Joseph Robert:
Oh, 21. I apologize. I got him 21. So, I was right. He wasn’t in the 20, but he is 21 on the Consheepsus rankings.
Tim Boyer :
Okay. So, when they say 21 though, they’re talking 21 amongst tight ends?
Joseph Robert:
Amongst tight ends. Yes.
Tim Boyer :
You guys are morons. Are you kidding me? The value is totally there.
Joseph Robert:
And that was standard. So, I pulled up PPR. So, he is 20th. He’s still valued. I mean they’ve got Evan Engram who can’t catch a ball to save his life ahead of him.
Tim Boyer :
20th tight end to me is like-
Joseph Robert:
Crazy.
Tim Boyer :
… a 12th rounder later, easily.
Joseph Robert:
I don’t know that far, but pretty far.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. Man, dude, think about a 20th tight end off the board. That’s super late.
Joseph Robert:
It’s late, yeah. So, I like Tonyan. There’s a sleeper for you.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. Hell yeah, that’s a no-brainer.
Joseph Robert:
What else is here? Terms weren’t disclosed, but I think Adam Thielen restructured his contract. He’s coming back. Him, Kirk Cousins, they’ll be back. Jefferson. That trio will be back. What else is there? D. J. Moore is coming back to the Panthers, signed a three-year contract deal worth 61.9 million in new money. It includes 41.6 million guaranteed for D. J. Moore. Again, he’s good. He’s not phenomenal, right?
Tim Boyer :
It’s another one of those lateral movements. It’s no improvement in his numbers.
Joseph Robert:
They’ve got quarterback issues. And the big one here we haven’t talked about, which I think is a waste of money, but I want to talk about this too. I really want to have a heart-to-heart. I want to lay out the truth here. And again, you might disagree. A lot of people disagreed with me here, but I felt the same way when Carson Wentz was paid that big 128 million dollar contract with the Eagles, and I thought that was a big waste of money.
Joseph Robert:
Sure enough, I was right. Carson Wentz sucked ever since. Now, Matt Stafford. He’s a good quarterback, don’t get me wrong. He won the Super Bowl, but Tim, they could have plugged in a Mitch Trubisky in there. Their offense was good. The coaching was good. The defense was amazing. They got Aaron Donald, they got Von Miller on the defensive side.
So, you got now a contract extension worth 160 million dollars, Tim, including 135 million guaranteed. That is a lot of money for a guy who’s been in the league since 2009. I understand he was on Detroit, but if you’re an amazing quarterback, Tim, you will lift up that team, right? It shouldn’t take you 10 years. And then a team switch where they go to a mega power to win the Super Bowl. But either way, he did it, congrats, he won the Super Bowl. One good year. I mean he had some good stats throughout the years, but nothing amazing, but 160 million for a guy that far into his career is crazy.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. And that’s the way it is though, right? Is that recency bias. They picked him up, he’s got a great team around him as you said. So, I don’t know if I’d say a Trubisky could step in there and do the same thing, but I understand you’re proving a point.
Joseph Robert:
Yes.
Tim Boyer :
It’s a lot of money, man. But that’s the way the league is right now. These quarterbacks are making bank, big bank. So, is it justified? No. But because he is the Super Bowl-winning quarterback, I guess you can justify it in that way. And as long as they keep that solid team around him, they can get three, four good years again. So, in that sense, yes, you can say he’s their long-term quarterback and he can make it happen.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. If you think about what makes somebody really rich and famous, right? It’s the value and the rarity. There are only so many good quarterbacks in the world that can do it. Matt Stafford is fully capable, he can do it. I just think it’s so much money for a guy this far in his season, in his career. I know he is young. He’s 30… What is he? 34, right? Been in the league since 2009 and with Detroit on a crappy team all those years, but what is that? How many? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13 years in the league, Tim. And then finally he gets on a superpower team and he wins. 13 years of doing nothing.
Tim Boyer :
That’s just it, the team helped make him the quarterback he was that year. If you take him right now and you throw him on Jacksonville, he’s ass again.
Joseph Robert:
Exactly.
Tim Boyer :
Okay. So, yes, you can plug in a lot of quarterbacks when you have a great team around. This is a team sport. No one individual can make it. Even a Derrick Henry, you take away Tannehill, Henry’s still going to be pretty damn good, but it might be a little bit of a different situation. There’s no one guy that can dominate. So, 160 million, it’s only justified because he is the Super Bowl-winning quarterback. Because of the team around him, he will be a decent guy for the next three or four years.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. It’s a big market. They’ve got a lot of deep pockets, so it is what it is.
Tim Boyer :
Take your bank, man. You got paid. Good on you. Congratulations on winning. Yes, we thought you were ass when you were with Detroit. Yes, the team around you was some of that problem. Whatever. It is what it is.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. One more thing, Cordarrelle Patterson real quick. I know you’ve got some things-
Tim Boyer :
There’s a lot more to talk about, but as I say, a lot of them are lateral movements. Cordarrelle Patterson. Yes, sir. Hit him.
Joseph Robert:
10.5 million to return to the Falcons, a two-year contract worth 10.5. Not huge, but he played really well when he was on the field. He can get it done receiving. He came to the league as a receiver. Did well at running back. Let’s see what he does again this year. Again, that’s a fair price. I think he’s a little underpaid.
Tim Boyer :
Do you realize he’s been in the league for 10 years?
Joseph Robert:
Has it been that long?
Tim Boyer :
Yes. And he’s been butt. He’s done nothing. His rookie year and last year where his only two relatively decent years. Now, there’s a question mark with Ryan too. They’re looking to potentially move Ryan.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. I don’t think it’ll happen.
Tim Boyer :
That opens up another situation with the quarterback, what’s going to happen here.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. I think Patterson if he gets the start, they just brought in what? Damien William is there now as well, I believe.
Tim Boyer :
Don’t care.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, it doesn’t matter. But either way, quarterback, Ryan wants a new deal. I think he wants an extension. I don’t know if he’s good enough to get an extension the way he has been playing. Calvin Ridley’s going to be gone for a year for the sports bets or whatever he was doing. It’s just a weird offense. And then Pitts, he was a high draft and didn’t do anything last year, and he’s third on the consensus. So, he’s expensive. So, if they get an upgrade at quarterback, they can feed Pitts. Pitts could be good. But again, I’m not saying that expensive price for Kyle Pitts.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, I agree with you there. So, to just get back to Cordarrelle. If Ryan stays, I think he’s still going to have another good year. I think Cordarrelle is going to be a nice pickup, especially if you can get him for a value, which I don’t know. He was good at catching and running the ball. So, he’s got that ability, man. But been around for 10 years, done pretty much ass. If he goes to another team, or if the quarterback situation changes, right off the radar for me.
Joseph Robert:
I’m trying to see where Patterson… Oh, Patterson’s sitting 41st amongst the Consheepsus.
Tim Boyer :
So, he’s a ridiculously late-round pick.
Joseph Robert:
Steal.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. You know what? I would probably look at him no matter what. I still don’t think that Damien Williams, even though he’s been pretty good, as long as the team offensively stays pretty much the same, I think Patterson’s the guy. Damien Williams does not affect it. If Ryan is there, Patterson is their go-to guy. And I think he maintains that for this year.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. Damien Williams has done nothing for a while. Patterson should be the RB1 on that team. But again, quarterback situation, suspect offense, wide receivers are suspect, whole offense is suspect. But there’s a dual-threat for value, again, sitting 41st on the Consheepsus rankings right now, Cordarrelle Patterson could be a steal and could be a league winner if he plays well.
Tim Boyer :
Absolutely man. Pick this guy up that late in the draft? Holy hell, yes, please. All-day long.
Joseph Robert:
They don’t have any wide receivers right now. All they’ve got is Pitts and Patterson, like really, and Damien Williams. That’s it. This offense is a suspect all around right now. So, Atlanta’s got a lot of question marks.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. So, here’s a big running back that we haven’t really touched on yet either, Melvin Gordon.
Joseph Robert:
Oh yeah, the free agent.
Tim Boyer :
So, does it matter? Honestly. That’s my question, I guess, at this point. Because we have no clue where the hell he might end up, but does it matter? Is he going to go to a team and excel? Is he going to go to a team and be the same?
Joseph Robert:
He’ll never excel. I never see him coming out and saying, “Oh, I’m going to be a top-five.” I don’t see him anyway. He’s passed his prime. I think he’s only got, and correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it’s one 1,000… let me pull it up here. One 1,000 rushing yard season since 2015. So, if you do the math, that’s what? Six, seven years. And one 1,000, that’s pathetic.
Tim Boyer :
He is capable of catching as well though, right?
Joseph Robert:
Yes.
Tim Boyer :
So, he does have that to go with it. So, to me, he’s still a good, potentially very good running back. But I don’t see him ever being a top dog. Once again, it’ll come down to value depending on where he lands, depending on where he is in the depth chart. I would look at him, but we have no freaking clue right now.
Joseph Robert:
He’s going to buzz kill somebody’s running back value somewhere.
Tim Boyer :
Unless he goes to an ass team that doesn’t really have a running back right now.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I wouldn’t even mind him in Atlanta. Just stay away from that whole committee, now that would be a disaster. Because Patterson has some value now, but if he ends up in Atlanta, then it’s really going to mess things up. He’s going to be a pest somewhere. I just don’t know where yet. So, at the time of this recording, we don’t know, he is a free agent. Hopefully, there’s an answer by the time it’s recorded.
Tim Boyer :
There are still a couple of big ones that we haven’t even touched on here, man. So, let’s hit this guy right now. Chris Godwin just got a huge contract too. And there’s another side note to this one. Fournette is a free agent that hasn’t been signed yet. So, there’s Godwin to talk about with his contract. I don’t think Gronk is guaranteed to play this year either at this point.
Joseph Robert:
He’s a free agent too. Antonio Brown.
Tim Boyer :
Antonio is gone.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, Antonio Brown.
Tim Boyer :
So, here’s a team that’s got a lot of question marks. They’re trying to possibly bring in-
Joseph Robert:
Julio Jones.
Tim Boyer :
Dude, we’re all over it.
Joseph Robert:
There are so many. Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski, all free agents right now.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. So, what is this team going to do? Who are they going to maintain? Who are they going to keep? Who are they going to let go? Who are they going to bring in instead? But Godwin got a nice, huge contract.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah.
Tim Boyer :
Is he worth the money? Is he the number one?
Joseph Robert:
I think so. I think he’s that good.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah?
Joseph Robert:
He’s got to stay healthy. I mean just let me check, what does he get? Like 60 million or something like that? There are so many contracts. 60 million. Correct. Yep. It a three-year deal worth 60 million, with 40 million guaranteed. I think he’s a really good receiver. The volume is always sketchy there with the Buccaneers obviously, because Brady next to the ball, throws the ball around, spreads it around. They had Evans, Gronk was there. It’s a mess.
If he gets the volume, he’s a solid receiver. Now, will I pay for him? Depends on his ADP. Again, everything is… That’s why I don’t go with Frankie. That’s why 16 Rounds Draft Solution is the real deal, is because you never know. If I can get him for value, sure. But I’m not going to overpay. And I remember a couple of years ago they had Evans and Godwin in the top 10. So, I’m like, “No, don’t do it.” Because Godwin had a year. I think it was 2018 or ’19, the year after everyone said, “Oh, draft Godwin round one or two.” I’m like, “No. You know what? They’re both going to finish outside.” And I mean I’m looking at it now. Evans, I see here, I’m going to pull this up in PPR. Evans is top 10 right now.
Tim Boyer :
Evans is pretty good every year, man. So, that’s the thing too, right? Like you just gave Godwin a nice contract. Evans is there. They’re talking about potentially Julio. Those are two big yardage receiving guys, no matter what. And you might say Julio’s passed his prime, he is washed, blah, blah. I disagree. I think he’s still got a lot in him. He’s never been that guy to put up huge touchdowns, but he’s always been a guy for huge yardage.
Joseph Robert:
He’s fading off into the sunset.
Tim Boyer :
He is. He’s getting up there in his career too. But I still think Julio is better than Godwin.
Joseph Robert:
You hear that, Tim?
Tim Boyer :
I do. Is that him fading into the-
Joseph Robert:
He’s fading off into the sunset.
Tim Boyer :
Wow, you’re horrible with sound effects. But anyway, so yes, you’ve got Evans there, potentially got Julio, potentially got Gronk. What do you do with Fournette who’s a good receiving back? So many question marks right now there, man. But Godwin-
Joseph Robert:
Just too many targets to go around. And Julio Jones is fading off into the sunset.
Tim Boyer :
That almost sounds like one of your kids’ little books, a little Disney chime thing going on or something.
Joseph Robert:
It does, yeah.
Tim Boyer :
Okay. So, here’s another thing then, since I mentioned Fournette too. Fournette is a free agent. This almost isn’t even worth talking about, but I kind of am a Bills fan. The Bills have talked about maybe moving on…. dammit, now I’m blanking. Who’s their short receiver guy?
Joseph Robert:
Was it Beasley?
Tim Boyer :
Beasley? Yes. Thank you. Beasley. I was totally blanking.
Joseph Robert:
Short receiver guy.
Tim Boyer :
That’s what he is, he’s their short-yardage receiver, but very, very good. So, if Beasley goes, their running backs have always kind of sucked. I think Fournette is a great fit for Buffalo.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, they need a power back. A guy a little stronger.
Tim Boyer :
Do they really though? Do they need that power back? I mean they’ve got a quarterback with a great arm that runs a lot as well. So, to me a Fournette is almost like a perfect plugin right there.
Joseph Robert:
A goal-line guy’s here. He can get around the goal line if he needs to and catch the ball at the back.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. And that’s if Beasley goes. If Beasley doesn’t go, it would still be nice for them to get a better running back, but it doesn’t have to be a guy like a Fournette. That would be sweet, but whatever. So, we’ve kind of hit on all of that. We talk about Gronk, blah, blah, blah.
Joseph Robert:
Actually, Melvin Gordon would be a good fit with the Buffalo Bills as well with Devin Singletary. I wouldn’t mind him there.
Tim Boyer :
You’re right. You’re right. That would work as well. Who else? Ooh, here’s another one. Here’s a has-been who made a comeback and just got a nice contract as well. James Conner. And I hate to call him a has been, because he hasn’t been around that long, but he’s sticking in Arizona. They just signed him to a two or three-year extension or something. Dude, he killed it last year in touchdowns.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. But that’s all he did. He doesn’t-
Tim Boyer :
Yeah, I think he was like 700 yards maybe. So, the yardage wasn’t huge, but he’s all they’ve got now and Christian Kirk is gone. What else do you have?
Joseph Robert:
You have Hopkins, Rondale Moore, Kyler Murray. He was disgruntled, but I think he’s staying with the Cardinals now.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. I mean Connor’s probably going to be a value pickup as well. So, I’d be definitely looking at him.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah.
Tim Boyer :
I don’t care if it’s all going to be in touchdowns and fairly low yardage. It very well maybe. But if he’s valued, definitely be looking at him.
Joseph Robert:
But again, he’s had his share of injuries. And watch the draft, they may pick up a running back or two and then you’ve got Eno Benjamin who hasn’t done much, but he could be a little mini breakout there, deep sleeper for you.
Tim Boyer :
Yeah. Another guy that I don’t really care about, is lateral movement, Allen Robinson to the Rams.
Joseph Robert:
Oh yeah. We’ve got to talk about Allen Robinson. And this is a guy that was a wide receiver one back in 2014 with the Jags. Didn’t do anything last year, and he was a pretty high draft, capital guy. Stayed away from him, told you to stay away from him. And that was with the Rams, with that three-headed… And Odell is a free agent as of right now, the time of this recording. So, is he going to stay? Is it going to be a three headed wide receiving monster core there? It’s going to be interesting to see.
Tim Boyer :
It is. And to me, it doesn’t really matter. Cooper Kupp is the man. I see this as a lateral movement. I don’t see his numbers exploding. Whatever. He’s just there.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah.
Tim Boyer :
Not that there’s anything happening here, but with Russell Wilson leaving, what’s going on in Seattle? What have we got?
Joseph Robert:
Nobody knows, man. Nobody knows.
Tim Boyer :
It is an absolute mess right now.
Joseph Robert:
They need a quarterback, and I’m just trying to check the latest news to see if we’re up to date on everything. I know Penny’s back, Rashaad Penny’s back at the Seahawks. One year deal 5.75 million. But in regards to the quarterback, I don’t know what’s going on there to be honest with you. They need a quarterback.
Tim Boyer :
Not just that, but even the receivers are nothing spectacular. So, if you bring in a mediocre quarterback, ugh, your team’s done for the year.
Joseph Robert:
Well, Drew Lock is there and there was some speculation and talk that he could actually start for Seattle.
Tim Boyer :
Then they’re screwed. Honestly, they’re screwed.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, absolutely.
Tim Boyer :
So, like I said guys, there are other people we could talk about. There’s a Tyrod Taylor, there’s Zach Ertz, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. To me, not super fantasy relevant.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. I’m just trying to keep my chop. There’s so much latest news. I
Tim Boyer :
Gallup in Dallas still, you know?
Joseph Robert:
Yeah. There’s a lot. Brady on retiring. I think he’s going to win one more Super Bowl, man, to be honest with you. I think he’s back for one more Super Bowl.
Tim Boyer :
But this has been a long one, man. And we could still talk about more. I just don’t want to kill everybody. There’s more we can talk about. Hit up the comments if you want to hear us talk about and give our opinions on some certain guys and we’ll hit them next time.
Joseph Robert:
So much going on, Tim. It’s hard to keep up with. I think we’ve got everything covered. Not that this matters, but since we’re talking news, Gerald Everett signing with the Chargers for a two year, 12 million deal. So, Gerald Everett.
Tim Boyer :
Start paying those running backs the money they deserve people. I know Joe was pissing and moaning about this a few years ago, when one of the running backs… It might have even been in Pittsburgh, right?
Joseph Robert:
Yeah.
Tim Boyer :
Was it when Bell was looking for a big contract? These guys need the money, especially if they’re work-horse running backs, they have very short careers. Pay them their damn money because you use them up.
Joseph Robert:
Well, Tim, similarly to Julio Jones riding off into the sunset-
Tim Boyer :
And I’m gone.
Joseph Rober:
… we’ve got to call this. This was a good episode, man. We’ve got to do more of these because I think people enjoy the talk and the back and forth. So, we’ve got to do more of these during the week. I know it’s off-season, but during the season we’ll definitely do more. And thanks, guys.
Tim Boyer :
Not to mention you’ve got the Blondy.
Joseph Robert:
The Blondy might be coming on.
Tim Boyer :
You’ve got Blondy starting to come on. Yeah.
Joseph Robert:
More on that coming guys. It’s going to be interesting, that’s for sure.
Tim Boyer :
She’s my total opposite.
Joseph Robert:
Yeah, total opposite.
Tim Boyer :
I don’t know why, maybe you guys will figure it out and you can tell me, but she’s my total opposite.
Joseph Robert:
Opposite. You guys look in the mirror, it’s like a reflection.
Tim Boyer :
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Joseph Robert:
All right, Tim. Well, thanks guys for being here. Subscribe. Obviously, Tim, we’ll be back for more and we’ll get you paired. Go get the 16 Round Draft Solution. And now you’re caught up. You’re up to date.
Tim Boyer :
Yes, sir.
Joseph Robert:
All right. We’re out. We’ll talk soon. Take care.
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