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Fantasy Football Depth Charts review and analysis for 2020. The Counselor and Tim dive in and give you practical advice to help you win your leagues!
Joe:
So listen Tim, we’re going to go through every single team, A-Z. And we’re going to go through players that I like, players I don’t like, the depth chart. We’re going to review it. We’re going to see how crowded these depth charts are because I feel that depth charts, honestly I know they’re a big part of drafting my players. So when I look at it and I see, for example, the Cleveland Browns, I see two running backs, almost equally as skilled running backs, equally as good running backs. We had Kareem Hunt, who’s a rushing leader, and Nick Chubb being drafted in the first round. I look at it and be like, okay, Nick Chubb’s a little expensive for me, Tim, in the first round, knowing Kareem Hunt is elite town. So I look at that depth chart, I study it and I say, these guys are almost equal so I’m going to avoid that situation. So there are these little tricks I do and tactics that have helped me win my leagues. Now if you guys are in a lot of money leagues, whatever you’re in, you got to be smart, because you want to make educated decisions. That’s why a 16 round draft solution going to really help you. Make sure you guys get it before we start this video. As soon as we’re done, head on over to thefantasyfootballcouselor.com. I’ve linked it and pinned it below in the top YouTube comment here and in the body under the video. But I’m telling you guys, secure 16 rounds is going to really help you. I’ve done all the research for you. But hey, sometimes it’s all about absorbing content, having fun, having the discussion. That’s what we’re going to do.
Tim:
Let me just tell you about the 16 rounds too. The way this came about is, I was always talking to you and like, Joe, everybody knows who to pick in the first four or five rounds. It’s a no brainer? I mean, you will know the top name guys. It’s in those mid to late rounds where everybody needs help. And that’s what brought 16 rounds around. That’s what born 16 rounds.
Joe:
Yeah, 16 rounds was born. And then ironically at the same time, my friend asked me too: ” Hey man, can you help me do my draft? Can you come to my draft? ” And I’m like, no man, I can’t be at your draft physically. So basically he called me up and said: ” Okay, who do I draft this round? Who do I draft in this round? ” And then we kind of put it all together and it formed. And I’m getting a lot of DM’s saying wow Joe, this is the future of fantasy analysis. Draft kits are dead guys. The future is here and a lot of other podcasts and so-called fantasy gurus are adapting. Like, oh, Joe’s upped his game, we got to start doing it. You’re going to have to bitches, because I’m telling you, your old school way of doing things is done man, I’m telling you. No one wants to read ADP rankings. And the thing with ADP rankings Tim, as I’m doing my draft whether it be, whatever platform I’m using. As the draft is going, all the rankings are there in that order. So there’s nothing the magazine is going to teach me that the system that you’re drafting on doesn’t already show you. It’s kind of redundant. So guys, get 16 rounds. All right, let’s dive into this. All right, so Arizona Cardinals first team here, Tim. Kyler Murray, there’s so much hype around this guy. People are saying he’s the next Lamar Jackson. Now, I understand he’s going to be good but remember last year guys, the mainstream all told you that Baker Mayfield is going to be elite. Odell Beckham’s the real deal. You guys got to get Odell they said, you got to do this. And I was the one saying Landry was better than Odell. Avoid Baker Mayfield, avoid Odell. So this year there’s a lot of hype around Arizona Cardinals. They’re kind of like the Cleveland Browns of last year. Everyone’s hyped on DeAndre Hopkins. Everyone’s hyped on Drake. Everyone’s hyped on Kyler Murray. And I’ll tell you, man, I really feel Kenyan Drake is fool’s gold. Trust me, Kenyan Drake could boom and I could be completely wrong. He just did a post recently where he’s like, ” hey man, ” he had a smiley face you guy’s probably already saw it. I put it on my social media. He had a smiley face, he’s like, ” This is my face I make when I take you to the fantasy football championships. ” So it’s cool that he’s acknowledging it, right Tim? But the thing is, I’m just not sold. And then we had Kingsbury say Chase Edmonds is going to be our potential starter. They have Eno Benjamin that could be a threat. So I’m looking at the depth chart. Chase Edmonds could be a factor. Eno Benjamin eventually could get worked in. And in regards to wide receivers, I don’t trust it here. Hopkins, there are so many mouths to feed. Larry Fitzgerald 109 targets last year. Christian Kirk 107. They’re still there. How many targets is Hopkins going to get? For him to thrive he needs 150 targets. Tim, I don’t like this team at all and I’m not paying fifth-round value for Kyler Murray. What are your thoughts?
Tim:
Yeah, I don’t think you’re paying the value for any of these guys. I know you’re never high on Kenyan Drake. DeAndre Hopkins, yeah, in the right situation. But right here, right now, no. Like you say, too many mouths to feed. You’re not paying the price for anybody here on Arizona. Stay away.
Joe:
Yeah, I’m going to stay away. Let’s move on here. And again, I could be wrong. Kyler could be the next Lamar. I’m personally not doing it. So you ask me, ” Joe, do you want Kyler Murray round five? ” No! I can get Russell Wilson round six-seven. And I can get Matt Ryan round six-seven. I could be getting an ace wide receiver there. Because there’s a ton of them and still in round five available.
Atlanta Falcons
All right, so let’s go Atlanta Falcons. This team, I’m wearing the hat. Love this team.
Tim:
I love this team this year as well. Absolutely.
Joe:
Love them. I know you’ve really got a man-crush on Hayden Hurst, man. What do you feel about Hayden?
Tim:
I just think it’s his year. I think the move over to this team, throwing quarterback, the other guys that he has around him. I know you’re really high on Todd Gurley. I’m not as high on Gurley. Either way I think this is going to be a great year, a great team. Look for Matt Ryan to be phenomenal. What a huge yardage.
Joe:
I mean, there’s all this talk about Gurley limping. It was a couple of weeks ago. Man, I’d rather have him limp a little bit, have him work out the kinks in the off-season. Be good to go. And if they do limit him… I was talking to a couple of guys… You know, if you guys aren’t following Fan to Fan Network make sure you guys, link below guys. @FTFN on Twitch. We’re also on YouTube so search FTFN on Twitch or Fan to Fan Network. And I was talking to a couple of our brand ambassadors. They were saying, well yeah, Gurley might be limited a bit to let’s say 15 attempts a game maybe. But again, they want to win. They’re not going to bring in Ito Smith or Qadree Ollison or Brian Hill in when they’ve got the ultra-elite Todd Gurley. They signed a one year deal with him. They’re going to work him. And I’m telling you, he’s going to get work. He’s got a chip on his shoulder. He’s probably angry everybody calling him old and arthritis. I love Gurley this year. Second round guy for me. If you can get him in the third that’s bonus for you. Hayden Hurst, he’s prime to succeed. Will he be the next Hooper? Maybe, maybe not. We know Matt Ryan likes to target tight ends. Julio, Ridley, all going to probably have a great season. Ridley’s already stated he wants a 1000 yard receiving season. I see him getting a lot of work in the end zone. Love Calvin Ridley and Matt Ryan coming off a bad year. Chip on his shoulder, he’s going to come back, have a great year. Matt Ryan, I see him finishing top five. He’s going to be great.
Tim:
Agreed.
Baltimore Ravens
Joe:
All right, moving on to the Ravens. Another team I’m avoiding, Tim. Lamar Jackson, second-round ADP. Not paying it, Tim. Not a guy coming off a year. What do you think, man? Is he going to have the same type of year last year? I don’t see it.
Tim:
No, but I’ve said it before. Even if he loses 50 points or 50 fantasy points in PPR. I don’t care, it’s not going to matter. He’s still going to be one of those top tier quarterbacks. Lost 50 points so when you say, even if he declines, he’s going to decline, don’t care. He’s still going to be a top guy.
Joe:
Yeah, I mean, when you look at the wide receivers, there is not enough volume to go around with the run-first team. Now, Lamar ran a lot 176 times. Ingram over 200 times. Now they’ve added J. K. Dobbins. And a lot of people are drafting Ingram thinking he’s going to get the 200 attempts he got last year. They brought in Dobbins, an elite running back, to come in and potentially be a starter on his own. Great for dynasty leagues. But you’re talking about a quarterback that runs a lot. You’ve got two solid running backs on paper. You’ve got Marquise Brown there who I think is going to be limited. A lot of people are high on him. I think the talent is there, but again, a similar situation to Seahawks and other teams where they are flirting with Antonio Brown. There was some interest, I know Lamar likes Antonio. If they bring Antonio Brown after week eight, that could be a thorn in Marquise Brown’s side where there’s already limited targets on a run-first team. And then you’ve got Mark Andrews here. I think he’ll be safe and solid but again, very high average draft position. Not willing to pay it for Mark Andrews as good of a season as he could have. But again, you’re looking at guys, Tim, that had pinnacle years last year. Mark Andrews, great year. Lamar, great year. People still drafting these guys as if they’re going to perform the same way. That’s why the system is broken. And that’s why 16 rounds is doing really well.
Tim:
Right, and we just did our tight end episode last week I believe. And yeah, Mark Andrews is still in my top 10, obviously. But he’s definitely moved down.
Joe:
All right, and that’s why I’m wearing the Consheepsus shirt guys. You’ve got to stray away from the Consheepsus. By the way, you can get our shirts on the website as well. At thefantasyfootballcounselor.com under store. All right, let’s move rapidly here. And guys, everything I’m saying, I’ve done the research, it’s starting to make sense. You’re listening in the comments, ” oh that makes sense here, okay, limited targets for Marquise Brown, okay. How many targets did he get? ” Go look into it. He didn’t get a lot, right?
Buffalo Bills
Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen I think he left practice yesterday. I think he’s going to be okay, don’t worry about it. His back-ups are terrible; Jake Fromm, Matt Barkley. So hopefully Allen is good. Singletary, from what I talked to Dan Mitchell, our FTFN rep, at Fan to Fan Network, he represents the Bills. He’s saying that Zack Moss is getting some work here. So this is one thing that really turned me off Devin Singletary this year is Zack Moss coming in, Moss mode. He’s going to get some work here. It’s definitely going to be a one-two punch. And Moss is going to be a strong uppercut I think. He’s going to get some volume. I like him later but look for this to be a one-two combo, Tim. I like it.
Tim:
Yeah, but not even an amazing one-two combo.
Joe:
We don’t know.
Tim:
It’s going to be a one-two combo, but there’s nothing spectacular here. Nothing that gets me really excited.
Joe:
Right, you’ve got a sleeper here with Dawson Knox, not really excited. But I think he has been working on catching the ball a little bit more. And then when you look at Stefon Diggs you’ve got to understand here, yes he’s the one. Yes, he’s going to demand the ball. The question is, is Allen going to throw? Go look at Allen’s passing attempts last year. Not very high, he doesn’t throw the ball a lot. He did have about nine rushing touch downs. If that declines a bit, hopefully, he makes that up in passing. I still like Allen the seventh round, but don’t look for nine touchdowns yet again. But look for him to throw more and is Stefon Diggs going to be the beneficiary? That’s the big question. Yes he is, but, there’s still Brown and Beasley who’ve got that rapport with Allen so that’s a big question mark to me. So I do like Diggs as a wide receiver two-three, but be cautious. Because again, that is predicated on how much volume Allen is going to throw Diggs’ way and he’s got that rapport with Brown and Beasley. So just be cautious, those guys still will get fed.
Carolina Panthers
All right, Carolina Panthers here, man. So much hype about Christian McCaffrey being first overall. What are your thoughts here, Tim?
Tim:
You know my thoughts. I’m just giving you the look of shut the F up.
Joe:
Are you being consensus? Listen. Matt Rhule has already said he wants to… This has injury written all over it. He wants Christian McCaffrey to start doing punt returns. You’re already utilizing this guy to his-
Tim:
Don’t risk him on such stupid crap.
Joe:
Well, I was talking to Big Cat, he doesn’t agree with this either. You’re taking White Thunder and you’re putting him into more lightning, right? It’s just crazy.
Tim:
White Lightning.
Joe:
White Lightning is going to enter some thunderstorms. I just don’t like putting him under this much stress. I don’t like the situation here. Especially if they implement him in the pass… in the punt returning. Leave the guy alone, he’s doing enough.
Tim:
Wasn’t it last year, though, they said they were going to take him off the field more often. He wasn’t going to be seeing as many snaps. And they talk a lot of crap and it doesn’t work out that way.
Joe:
I know. From what we’re hearing from Big Cat… Again, if you guys aren’t following Fan to Fan Network, head on over to fantofannetwork.com. All your news and information is there. And follow us on YouTube as well. We’re going to be doing a live morning show Sunday morning kick-off, it’s going to be great. Every Sunday morning at 11, with all the ambassadors. So, this is going to be phenomenal. Robby Anderson here, Tim. I like it, I like the upside-
Tim:
I was going to ask you, yeah.
Joe:
From what Big Cat was saying, Robby Anderson looks good. He’s burning defenders man, in practice. He looks really good this season. And I don’t want to sleep on him as potentially being the one there. I know D. J. Moore’s there but you got a new quarterback now. And who knows, maybe Bridgewater gravitates to Robby Anderson more. Who knows? Right? Everyone’s just assuming that D. J. Moore’s got that one role and he probably does. But at the end of the day, if I can get Robby Anderson for free later, give him to me.
Tim:
Yeah, and like you say, in this case, there’s a huge gap in the ADP. So, D. J.’s going around 14th amongst wide receivers. Robby’s going 55. So huge gap for a guy who could potentially push the other guy, and be neck in neck even.
Chicago Bears
Joe:
Absolutely. All right let’s move on to the Bears here. Obviously a quarterback battle. It looks like it’s going to be Mitch’s job to lose. I think he gets the start out of the gate. If they start winning, boom, he’s going to do well, I think he’s going to get going and take that job. But if they start losing, look for Nick Foles to come in. And the way I view it, and I think the Bears view it similarly, Mitch is kind of that upside player. Whereas Nick Foles is going to come in, manage the game, gets what needs to be done, done, and win some games safe and securely. Whereas Mitch, I think, has a little more upside. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Mitch is the starter in my opinion. Nick Foles right behind him, breathing down his neck when you look at the depth chart.
David Montgomery not concerned about Tarik Cohen at all. When you look at the way the attempts were, Montgomery out-snapped him significantly. 242 attempts for Montgomery, Tarik Cohen nowhere near that. So when I look at this, they said Cordarrelle Patterson who came in the league as a wide receiver, is going to come in and probably get some of that running back… They say he’s a running back, capable guy. I don’t like him. They’re using Cordarrelle Patterson, who is a wide receiver, as a running back. I don’t like that. So I don’t see him being a threat. Montgomery’s the guy, working on his top-end speed, I’ve told you this, and great conditioning. Love him. Do you like Montgomery? How are you feeling? Does your gut say maybe break out runs this year?
Tim:
I’m still not super high on him. I think he’s got some good value, especially for his ADP. But, I’m not thinking he’s going to be anything amazing.
Joe:
Right. Allen Robinson could do well, Miller. Robinson is going to be the guy there. But is he going to be able to handle double coverage and get the volume? Possibly, it all depends on the quarterback play. And Jimmy Graham, not sold on, but Cole Kmet could be a sleeper at the tight end position.
Tim:
Miller’s a good pick up late no matter what. Because if anything, God forbid, does happen to Robinson, then you’ve got him right there.
Joe:
Yeah, Miller, I’m not really sold on, but we’re going to see what he does this year.
Cincinnati Bengals
Now, Bengals, totally suspect team. There’s a lot of upsides sitting here. Now, who is the wide receiver that’s going to get the volume with Burrow? Tee Higgins is a rookie that came in. He is wiry, he is dynamic. He’s a dynamic playmaker from what we’ve seen on film. But is Burrow going to connect to him right away? It could be a connection off the bat, we don’t know. A. J. Green there, do we trust his durability? I don’t. Tyler Boyd, John Ross, who is it? Who is it going to be? You’ve got tight end Uzomah. Do you trust that Uzomah, is that somebody that Burrow’s going to gravitate to? And then you’ve got Mixon who’s what, sitting top 10 on the running back rankings. Years to wow me, I’m not wowed, Tim. I know we talked about him prior to the show, what do you think of Mixon? Is he safe?
Tim:
He’s had a couple of decent years the last two years. He’s only been in the league for three. So he’s gotten a little… So year one was 140 fantasy points, then it went to 240, then down to around 213. So, he’s in that range. Not a top 10. God, no. I don’t think that’s justified. But he’s definitely there as a decent pickup.
Joe:
He’s a safe guy in round two. I personally don’t… I like to hit the grand slam. I’m going for guys that have a higher ceiling. That’s why I’m staying away from Mixon. I don’t like him.
Cleveland Browns
Moving on to the Browns here. We are rapid firing here. This is another offense that, on paper, looks pretty phenomenal; if Odell gets back to the shape he was three years ago. Landry gets going. Now again, what’s bothering me is Odell still the wide receiver one, when Landry out preformed him. He’s clearly Baker Mayfield’s top target. So when you’re all looking at depth charts, it’s very misleading and last year I was the only guy that said Landry is better than Odell. And people said, but that guy in a straight jacket. Hey, Joe’s crazy! I’m like, Landry’s got that rapport with Baker Mayfield. Now, this year I’m probably changing my tune a little bit. I think Odell steps up a little bit more this year. He said he will. I think he gets targeted more. But again, you are looking at a run-first team, essentially with Nick Chubb who crushed it last year. But he’s got Kareem Hunt there breathing down his neck. We talked about this at the beginning of the show. Tim, how do you feel about the situation? I know how you feel, but to the people who are listening, and just tuning in right now, and having just caught what we were talking about in the offseason, explain how you feel about this tandem.
Tim:
Yeah, I’ve always been with you on this one. Even last year, I was talking about it. When Kareem Hunt came back you knew that the Chubb’s numbers were going to drop and they dropped significantly. Yes, he still had two major weeks in the last six weeks I think it was. But Kareem Hunt was right there stealing points. And these guys were like neck in neck. In fact, Hunt outscored him six out of eight weeks or something.
Joe:
Yeah, in PPR points. Now, here’s the thing. So let’s just say in one game… I think a couple of those games it was an even split. So in a couple of those games, Nick Chubb had 14 points.
Tim:
Yeah, it was very close.
Joe:
Kareem Hunt had like 15 points. So they were close. But here’s the deal. If you’re in the championships, or you’re trying to make the playoffs in your fantasy league and Nick Chubb is your RB1, you’ve invested first-round, early second-round draft capital on this guy, okay? And Kareem Hunt is there stealing like a thief in the night. Stealing 15 points from you when you need it the most. Those receptions, PPR points could have gone to Nick Chubb. You are losing 15 points and you could have lost that week by a point. Those 15 points, those five points, those two points, went to Kareem Hunt when they could have gone to your RB1? You’re going to be crying at the end of the season. Stay the hell away from Nick Chubb. You can’t ignore… ” Oh, well Stefanski’s there, he ran Dalvin Cook last year. He’s going to run Nick Chubb the same way he ran Dalvin Cook. Shut up, Joe! I still believe in Nick Chubb! ” This is what I’m hearing. I hear this every day. You can’t ignore the NFL rushing leader in PPR potential monster of Kareem Hunt. You just can’t ignore him.
Joe:
So when I look at this depth chart, I see two guys where Kareem Hunt is actually better than Nick Chubb. I don’t care. Maybe not as a pure runner, but overall? A better running back. So I’m staying away from this entire offense. Everyone’s thinking Austin Hooper’s going to be the same Austin Hooper with Matt Ryan. I don’t see it. It’s a make or break year for Baker Mayfield. I’m not investing in any of these players. Now, I may, if Kareem Hunt is sitting there in round eight, which I doubt he will be, I might grab him. But other than that, staying away.
Tim:
Yeah, like you say, there are so many decent mouths to feed on this team. Too many guys to spread the ball around to. I’m not buying into any of this either unless the price is really right.
Dallas Cowboys
Joe:
Yup, the price is right. Moving on to Dallas Cowboys. Dak Prescott, now this is a guy I would be able to get as a backup guy for all my… cause I knew the Kansas City Chiefs were sleeping on him. Now they’re all over him. They’ve got him top three quarterbacks. Am I investing Dak now? I think he’s going to have a great season, yes. Am I investing? No. Why? I mean, way too early for a guy I’ve been getting in the last couple of years in the 10th round. Forget it. Zeke Elliott, safe and solid. He had 301 attempts last year. Only second to Derrick Henry. Love this guy. But again, Pollard’s going to be a little bit of a factor there. I think they’re going to throw more, a little bit more this year as McCarthy there. They’ve got Cooper, they’ve got Gallup, they’ve got CeeDee Lamb they brought in. I’m staying away from this receiving core because again, you look at Amari Cooper, Tim, 119 targets last year, with CeeDee Lamb not there. I can only see that going down. I don’t like this situation. Blake Jarwin has some ceiling but again, there’s a lot of targets to feed here, Tim. I don’t like it.
Tim:
Yeah, maybe Amari Cooper based a little too high right now. Kind of in the top 10 for wide receivers. Where, as you say, you’ve got some other really good talent there. Those are the guys I would look more for in the middle rounds. You know, give me a Gallup, give me a Lamb in the middle.
Denver Broncos
Joe:
Yeah, I’m staying away from this. The three-headed monster of that wide receiver. And again, similar to this next team, Denver Broncos, where you look at the Denver Broncos similarly. You’ve got Hamler, I think he was banged up here with a recent injury. I think he’s going to be okay though. Jerry Jeudy, Courtland Sutton. It’s like, who’s going to be the one? And then typically you’d really know, I know Sutton seems like the obvious guy and you’d know. But, Drew Lock we don’t know. He could gravitate… It could be the Noah Fant, Drew Lock show. He likes Hamler, we don’t know. And then we’ve got Lindsay and Gordon. Lindsay doesn’t want to give up that starting job. From what we’re hearing it’s going to be a one-two punch. And there’s no designated starter. So I’m staying away from Gordon, Lindsay, I may get Jeudy later. Maybe Fant late. Maybe Drew Lock as a back-up quarterback with a high sink. Because I love Drew Lock, but way too much going on here. It’s kind of overwhelming for me a little bit.
Tim:
Definitely when the running backs come into play. We used to talk about Freeman and Lindsay all the time last year. Now you’ve got Freeman, Lindsay, Gordon.
Joe:
Forget it.
Tim:
So yeah, Freeman’s probably going to be pushed to the side a little more, but even still, you’ve got three pretty decent mouths to feed here.
Detriot Lions
Joe:
I’m staying away. All right, Detroit Lions, Stafford, if healthy, going to be solid. Now here is where, it’s a perfect example, a wide receiver where Amendola and Marvin Jones are nowhere near the talent of Kenny Golladay. I’m looking for him to emerge here. Now a lot of people are saying Marvin Jones is a factor, but if you look at Marvin Jones, he had one big game where he had four touchdowns; which completely inflated his numbers last year. And he had suspect quarterbacks thrown onto the ball. So, I like Kenny Golladay this year. Hockenson’s a little bit banged up but I like him as a late-round sleeper. Swift, he was a little bit banged up in practice, but I think he’ll be okay, should take the starting job, but they’re going to running by a committee. And then I also look at history here, Tim. I look at history and I look at the situation and I see that the Lions have not turned out an elite running back for fantasy for years. So I don’t see that really changing. I do see Swift possibly being the starter, taking that job. But I don’t get giddy and excited about the Lions when it comes to fantasy and I like Stafford as a back-up quarterback. Any thoughts on the Lions?
Tim:
Nope, exactly what you said. I’m not thrilled with any of their position players and yeah, same thing with Stafford.
Joe:
All right guys. And again, 16 rounds, you can see the research I’ve done here. And I’ve hand-picked players I like and which round to take them based on the research I’m doing. Make sure you guys get the 16 round draft solution guys. Thefantasyfootballcounselor.com. You’re going to be very, very happy people.
Green Bay Packers
Joe:
All right so Green Bay Packers here. We’ve got Aaron Rodgers. I think he’s going to have a great season this year, I really do. A lot of people are sleeping on him, chip on his shoulder. We’ve got Aaron Jones, again, similar. People are pretty much drafting Aaron Jones thinking he’s Aaron Jones of 2019. When you’re looking at 2020 fantasy football, it’s a different scenario. He has 16 rushing touchdowns. Not going to happen again with the monster that is A.J…. Have you seen his quads, Tim?
Tim:
No. I’ve heard you talking-
Joe:
You haven’t seen that picture?
Tim:
-to some of the other guys.
Joe:
Oh my God, you haven’t seen the picture of this guy’s quads?
Tim:
No.
Joe:
Oh my goodness. They’re big.
Tim:
I heard you talking to some of the FTFN guys asking who got the bigger quads.
Joe:
Okay, so guys, take a look at Tim’s body here from shoulder to shoulder. That is A. J. Dillon’s calf muscle. Right there, from left to right, that’s his calf. That’s how big. He’s like the Incredible Hulk, man. I’m telling you, he’s a monster. I love him. I absolutely love him. His quads are bigger than Saquon’s.
Tim:
So what you’re trying to get at here is value. He is the value where he is.
Joe:
Just stash him as your RB five-six on your roster. A. J. Dillon. Just stash him. That’s it, man. I don’t know what to tell you. Aaron Jones, obviously he’s the starter. But he’s only finished one out of the three seasons he’s played. A contract year, but the Packers are looking at a guy that they may not have to pay, get him on a rookie contract, he could be the workhorse. Why not? Value, cash, more cash in the pocket, right? So you’ve got Adams as well I think he’s going to have a good season if healthy. Lazard is getting first-team reps. He is slated as the wide receiver too. Immense value. Tim, he’s sitting 66th on the consensus ranking.
Tim:
Absolutely man.
Joe:
Huge. Huge.
Tim:
He’s totally worth it.
Joe:
I love him, as a sleeper. And then you’ve got Jace Sternberger, I’m not really sold on his tight end. Not really excited, but he has some upside.
Houston Texans
Joe:
Texans here, David Johnson. Do I need to go into this? Do I really need to go into this?
Tim:
No, because everybody will write in, saying get off of David’s D.
Joe:
I don’t care. Listen, David Johnson’s going to thrive this year. And I can’t wait, knock on wood. It’s because we’re… council nation’s going to come in strong, and it’s going to be a prime time game. It’s going to be Texans vs. Chiefs. And it’s coming guys. It’s coming September 10th. We are almost there. So you’re going to have David Johnson vs. Pat Mahomes that game prime time. Going to be exciting. Listen, the Texans have something to prove. They gave up Hopkins pretty much for David Johnson. And they are going to prove that they went and made the right decision. I’m telling you guys.
Tim:
I don’t always agree with you but I 100 percent agree with you on David Johnson.
Joe:
He’s going to get the volume.
Tim:
I have talked him up this year.
Joe:
And the value!
Tim:
Yeah. You pick-
Joe:
The value!
Tim:
Yeah, fourth round, third, fourth. Like, come on! Are you kidding me?
Joe:
A workhorse, right. And this is what people aren’t seeing. You’re getting Nick Chubb in late first. And you’re okay with that. Yet you don’t want to pay a third-fourth value for David Johnson who’s a workhorse running back? That we know is going to get the work? Forget it, man. He’s going to thrive. Then you’ve got Will Fuller and Cooks. I like Cooks, but again a similar team. There’s been flirting with Antonio Brown. Could he end up there? Could be a buzzkill, so be cautious with that. Will Fuller, a lot of people saying he’s going to break out. We see Deshaun Watson praising him, saying he’s going to have a good year. But can the guy stay on the field? I like Cooks a little bit better. Yes, he’s had his issues with concussions, but I’m not too concerned. He should be okay this year. Darren Fells, I’m not really sold on that tight end. And Deshaun Watson could be safe. But again, he’s had injuries in the past as well. Always a bit of a concern for me for a running quarterback who had multiple knee injuries in the past. I know he’s okay now, but it always makes me feel a little uncomfortable.
Indianapolis Colts
Joe:
So next, Indianapolis Colts, love this team. I see fantasy football all over this. First of all, it’s your guy Rivers, it’s your boy.
Tim:
I like him. Safe and steady. He’s my guy.
Joe:
That’s your boy Rivers. So Philip River’s a guy, back-up quarterback. This guy was seventh in attempts last year. He throws the ball. Phenomenal O-lines so he’s going to have more time to throw. He’s got great receivers. Not phenomenal receivers, he doesn’t have Julio Jones, but T. Y. Hilton hasn’t had a good quarterback throwing to him since Andrew Luck. He’s got Philip Rivers now, I think that’s going to be a great connection. Great value for a wide receiver, one in the fifth round. If you don’t feel comfortable with him, I know Parris Campbell is slated ahead in the depth chart, but look for Michael Pittman to emerge. A guy that the Colts invested first pick in the draft capital for NFL draft 2020. That was their first pick ahead of Jonathan Taylor.
Tim:
Rivers is not a running quarterback by any means. Yes, the running backs can get some work done here, and then you’ve got Jonathan Taylor coming in, but still. Look for Rivers to throw the ball. There’s going to be a lot of yards to go around here.
Joe:
Absolutely. And then we’ve got… Sorry, I don’t want to go down to Jacksonville yet. Jonathan Taylor, he’s going to take the job. They said… So this is where we were having this conversation here with the Fan to Fan guys. And I said, okay, I was talking to Bring the Juice Podcast. They’re the Colts ambassadors at Fan to Fan Network. And they’re saying hot hand, but that’s a nice way of saying, you suck, Mack. Taylor’s taking the job. It’s like saying, hey Tim, I’ve got this new guy Johnny, he’s coming onto the show, and hey, we’re just going to ride the hot hand. Whoever does better on the pod-
Tim:
Johnny’s a little better doing this than you are, so we’re going to go with him this time, maybe next time we’ll give you a shot.
Joe:
Yeah, but the hot hand means, okay Johnny’s just doing better than Tim every episode, so we’re going to phase Tim out. I don’t want to tell Tim we’re phasing Tim out, but that’s what the Colts are doing to Mack. They’re not saying Mack, you suck. You’ve given us a couple 1000 yard rushing seasons, whatever. We don’t want to say Taylor’s going to be the man, you’re going to be his bitch. But we’re basically saying that by saying that you’re going to be the hot hand. Straight up. So, Taylor’s going to take this job. Third round average draft position typically. Great value, a guy that could take the job. Get his as part of a robust RB strategy, you’re going to be very happy. Stash Michael Pittman later and Doyle, another tight end sleeper. We know Philip Rivers uses his tight ends so why not? There you go, a lot of value, I’m seeing fantasy written all over this.
Jacksonville Jaguars
Joe:
Jacksonville Jaguars, Minshew safe and solid back-up. Leonard Fournette, contract year, obviously needs to perform. You like Fournette this year a lot.
Tim:
I like Fournette. Especially at his ADP, man. Once again, you’re getting him third round typically.
Joe:
Yup, third round. And he had three touchdowns last year. That’s going to go up. They’re definitely going to get near the red zone a little bit more. Minshew obviously a step up year this year for him. A little more comfortable. Chark, going to be a primary target. They’ve got a rookie, Laviska Shenault, a gadget player. Not really sold on him getting a ton of volume, but you never know. Dede Westbrook, years to wow us. And Eifert I can’t trust. So Fournette, Chark I like. Chark fifth-round value, yet again, good value.
Tim:
The big thing with Fournette too, is, his receiving numbers went up huge last year. I think they basically doubled last year. So that’s why I’m so high on him too.
Kansas City Chiefs
Joe:
Right, all right Kansas City Chiefs. Pat Mahomes, I like Pat Mahomes obviously, but do I like him in the second round? Not really. I think he’s going to have a great year. Tyreek Hill, do I like him? Yeah, but not at the end of the first round. A guy that I like, but he just walked off with a bit of an injury the other day. I think he’s okay, might have been a bit of a hamstring tear or twist or whatever the hell it is. This guy has struggled with injuries in the past, off-field issues. And he’s a very volatile game in, game out. So, very hard to trust. If you want a guy, go Mecole Hardman for free later as your wide receiver five-six as a sleeper. And he’s going to have volatile games too, but you don’t have to pay first-round pick for him, that’s all. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, a lot of talk about this guy. Is he worth the first-round pick?
Tim:
He’s being hyped up huge now.
Joe:
Huge, and I understand the hype. They’ve still got Darwin Thompson, which could be a bit of a threat. DeAndre Washington, Darrel Williams. The big question is here, is his past protection going to be up to par? Are they going to bring in someone else eventually, maybe a veteran like a Devonta Freeman that’s lingering just to ensure the safety of their big investment in Pat Mahomes. So I think they obviously believe in Helaire, they wouldn’t have acquired him in the first round with the 32nd pick overall. I don’t know, its tough man, it’s tough. If you do get him, and I definitely see the appeal, I’m not going to say not to draft, I can’t say that because I definitely see the talent and the upside in a high octane offense, but I just feel a little more comfortable with Josh Jacobs in the first round, that’s all.
Tim:
Yeah, so what you’re saying is that it could happen, but I just don’t want to take that risk when I know there’s someone just a little more solid there.
Joe:
I think so, so he’s coming out sixth, Tim. Off the board, sixth-seventh pick. Overall.
Tim:
I don’t get it.
Joe:
Unproven on a team that doesn’t really care about your fantasy because we saw it last year. We saw Darwin Thompson coming, he looked really good on the weights in training. They brought Shady McCoy in, brought him, what were they doing? Yet, they have a formula for winning. And, I don’t know man, they’ll do whatever it takes to win. There’s no integrity for fantasy players. And then Kelce again, I’m not investing in him. Safe and solid but very early for a tight end.
Joe:
Let’s rapid-fire here, we’re moving quick, we’ve still got a ton of teams left here. So let’s move on to the-
Los Angeles Chargers
Tim:
Chargers?
Joe:
…Chargers here. Stay away from everybody here. Honestly… What are you talking about?
Tim:
Ekeler!
Joe:
Come on!
Tim:
Ekeler is my boy. You are sleeping on him and you’re going to eat your words.
Joe:
I’m staying away from Ekeler, man. I’m staying away.
Tim:
Ekeler in the second round? I’m all over it.
Joe:
Not staying away. Philip Rivers is your guy, I thought. And he was the guy dumping the ball to Ekeler last year and guess what, he’s not there. So there’ll be a lot of check downs with Tyrod Taylor. I don’t know, man.
Tim:
Ekeler’s there, dude. He’s what you want in a running back.
Joe:
Not sold.
Tim:
Receiving and rushing.
Joe:
Mike Williams, I heard he was a little banged up in practice. Keenan Allen, don’t trust him. I mean, he’s going to get the volume, someone’s got to catch the ball, but-
Tim:
Hunter Henry.
Joe:
Can’t stay healthy. I’m staying away from this entire offense. Ekeler’s just not a true workhorse running back. He’s just not.
Tim:
You’re going to eat your words.
Los Angeles Rams
Joe:
Okay, we’ll see. All right, Los Angeles Rams. Goff, safe, secure. Cam Akers. Now Henderson went out with a soft tissue injury. This is why I’m liking… Okay, so when the draft happened Tim, I saw Akers land here, I’m like, okay obviously the Rams don’t believe in Darrell Henderson, he only had 39 attempts last year. Malcolm Brown is kind of the veteran there. But obviously years to wow us, we’re not wowed. John Kelly’s done nothing. Cam Akers, one of the top running back prospects coming in, now first-team reps getting some work. Now he did fumble in practice. I think it was Donald that hit the ball out of him. But it’s okay, he came back, getting some volume. Fifth-round, not bad. Now, there is some talk that it’s going to be a committee. The hot hand will prevail here, and I think it’s going to be Akers.
Tim:
Right, so for the fifth round, it’s a good value.
Joe:
Now, I heard Van Jefferson’s making some nice catches here as the rookie here. He’s fourth on the depth chart behind Reynolds, Kupp, and Woods. I would’ve like Van Jefferson here, but simply the reason I don’t is because Woods and Kupp are still ahead of him in the pecking order. And they’ve got Higbee who did pretty well last year. Look for him to be a safe tight end you can get for decent value mid-round there for Higbee if you want a tight end.
Las Vegas Raiders
Joe:
Vegas Raiders here, it’s weird calling them Vegas Raiders. But, Jacobs man, apparently he’s doing phenomenal in practice. We were talking to our Raider’s guy, Darion, spotlight Raiders. Again, if you guys aren’t following Fan to Fan Network, head on over. Bookmark fantofannetwork.com the page. And of course, follow below, I’ve linked the YouTube channel below. Josh Jacobs solid. Jalen Richard, they got Theo Riddick in there now. Not really sold on these guys. Ruggs, apparently he should do okay. Bryan Edwards. You know, Bryan Edwards and Ruggs, the young dynamic talent there. Edwards getting a lot of reps. Ruggs I think is going to be up and down in games. He was invested heavily in the draft capital by the Raiders. I’m not really sold on him, Tim. I’m just not sold on him being the guy because I don’t trust Derek Carr.
Tim:
The thing here for me is there is no clear cut wide receiver one that is going to outpace the other guys by a huge margin. So if you can get any of these guys at a decent price, why not?
Joe:
You better know-
Tim:
And you know Darren Waller is going to be all over the balls.
Joe:
He will be. You better know, it’s not going to be Hunter Renfrow, there’s my rhyme. And I’m not sold on Derek Carr. All right, Miami Dolphins. Their running backs are a disaster. Breida, Laird, Howard, are you kidding me? Howard being on the top of the depth chart. Years to wow me, Tim, and guess what, I’m not wowed.
Tim:
But if the price is right, and I need a pick, I’m taking him.
Miami Dolphins
Joe:
That’s why I’ve got to load up on running backs early. You’re going to end up with a Jordan Howard, you’re going to be a very sad, sad soul this year. Now Fitzmagic should be getting the start to obviously having some struggles in camp. Not doing as well as projected. It’s going to take him some time to get integrated. Fitzmagic is the guy. The big debate here… I like Gesicki by the way as a sleeper. I think he’s going to get some volume. The big question is Parker or Preston Williams, who’s going to be the one there? We don’t know. Preston Williams showing some promise, coming off an injury. I don’t know, man, it’s going to be tough. And again, I don’t really want to roll the dice with these guys.
Tim:
Woo, baby! Anyways there are yards to be had here. So someone is going to benefit from that. Why not? If the ADP is right, just take either one of these guys.
Minnesota Vikings
Joe:
All right, Minnesota Vikings here, let’s move on. Kirk Cousins is going to be safe. Not really targeting him. Thielen could have a phenomenal season. The guy I like as a sleeper wide receiver is Justin Jefferson. Great value. Dalvin Cook, not sold on him.
Tim:
Never sold on him.
Joe:
I like Mattison late as a sleeper. Irv Smith, not really sold. But Jefferson, Mattison, love. That’s all I… Let’s move on.
New England Patriots
Joe:
New England Patriots staying away from this entire team. Let’s move on, except for Devin Asiasi. That’s it. They know how to draft tight ends. Cam Newton likes tight ends. Equals Devin Asiasi later. Just stash him. Late round, back-up tight end, nobody’s talking about him except for the councilor. Devin Asiasi, why not?
Tim:
Asiasi!
Joe:
If you get him for… He’s not even going to go drafted. I know you’re going to say, well, Joe, why do I have to draft him, I’ve got to pick him. Why do you want to waste your F-A-A-B. I always have a hard time. Free-agent acquisition budget first week. It’s a blind bid. You’re going to spend half your budget or you’re going to waste away your priority, whatever, on Devin Asiasi, once he has a good first week.
Tim:
Yeah, pick him up late.
Joe:
Stash him. If you have room, you should actually be pushing your commissioners to have more bench spots this year because of what happened with the world. And this possible situation where these guys could be under quarantine for a couple of weeks. So, Devin Asiasi, just stash the guy and stop talking about it. Because their wide receivers are Edelman, N’keal Harry, Sanu, I don’t trust these guys. Jakobi Meyers, I don’t know, it’s just a disaster and don’t even talk about running backs there, man. Damien Harris could emerge, but Sony Michel’s, James White. Burkface is there. I know it’s Burkhead. Listen, stay away.
New Orleans Saints
Joe:
Okay, Saints here. Michael Thomas, pinnacle year last year. He’s had 185 targets-
Tim:
Still going to be amazing.
Joe:
Not happening.
Tim:
Going to be an amazing year.
Joe:
He’s not going to have the same year.
Tim:
He might not have the same year, but he’s still going to be amazing.
Joe:
Jared Cook came on strong with touchdowns. I like him at the end of the season, that could continue. I hate Drew Brees, he’s so volatile game in, game out, Tim, I hate him for that. I hate the 40 point game and then the four-point game after that. And I hate when Taysom Hill comes in. I hate him. He always comes in near the goal line. Now you’re saying, Joe, that’s not a big deal if he comes in for one or two plays. But it is a big deal because you’ve got Drew Brees near the goal line, and he could A: either run it in. I know Drew Brees won’t run it in. But either A: run it in, or B: short pass for a touchdown. There goes five points. Four or five points.
Tim:
And I know it doesn’t matter this year. But Jameis Winston there now.
Joe:
I know.
Tim:
Just think, you know. Year or two, he’s the man.
Joe:
You never know. Latavius Murray, Kamara’s going to be safe. What you see is what you get. Contract year could be interesting.
Joe:
All right, let’s move on. Giants, rapid-fire, Saquon Barkley love him. Improved O-line, slated as a wide receiver one. Daniel Jones, I think he’s going to do good. I’m not really sold on him having this phenomenal year.
Tim:
Engram coming off like a half year injury but still should be really good if he’s healthy.
Joe:
Always banged up. He’s a big dice roll. Decent value but again, you’re rolling the dice on injuries.
New York Jets
Joe:
New York Jets here. Le’Veon Bell…
Tim:
Don’t even bother.
Joe:
The boxing…
Tim:
Stop being a little media-
Joe:
I still want to box him. I want to box him, he wants to box me. I know he does.
Tim:
In private.
Philadelphia Eagles
Joe:
In private. Right. Sam Darnold, I’m not sold on. They’ve got no receiver. Mims’ already banged up. Perriman banged up. Crowder, Herndon. It’s a disaster man. They’ve got 30 wide receivers here, and none of them I would draft. I mean, Josh Bell, I mean Chris Hogan. Who are these guys? Josh Malone. I don’t trust anyone. Forget it, let’s move on.
Tim:
Nothing exciting.
Joe:
Eagles, a lot of hype around Jalen Reagor but do we trust Carson Wentz staying healthy? Then they’ve got Zack Ertz and Goedert, the two-headed monster. Goedert was a little banged up as well. Miles Sanders was a little banged up, lower-body injury, not discussing what it is. The Eagles very tight-
Tim:
That’s not good.
Joe:
Tight-lipped about it. Tell us. Tell us what’s going on with Sanders. And again, this is where that situation is, I love Miles Sanders, they’ve already said he’s going to get 300 attempts. Came on strong near the end of the season, but are they going to bring in a Devonta, that Devonta Freeman lingering thing is always bothering me.
Tim:
So you got Devonta and you’ve got AB just sitting there. Who takes them, and who gets screwed?
Joe:
Who are they going to buzz kill? I don’t know, man. I’m just afraid because these guys are flirting with other running backs to come in. And now with Sanders with this lower-body injury maybe they’ll be like, maybe we’ll bring in someone, we were going to do it anyway, now that he’s got a little bit of an injury… You know, Boston Scott is not a guy that I think could do it behind him.
Tim:
I was high on Sanders, man. So I hope he can come back from this fairly quickly.
Joe:
I like him.
Tim:
And be good.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Joe:
And he’s hungry. All right, Steelers. Love this team. Dionte Johnson, Claypool, the guys I’m stacking. And some people are saying, well Joe, you’re wasting an extra wide receiver slot. Just get one. I like both. I think both of them could really emerge. And I think both of them could get first-team reps consistently if they line up JuJu in the slot. You’ve got Claypool and Dionte on the outside, Washington sucks. James Conner, do we trust him, Tim? Injury?
Tim:
I mean, he’s okay. I’m not expecting anything amazing from him this year. So just give me him late maybe.
Joe:
Ebron I’m not sold on. They’ve got Vance Mcdonald, did nothing last year. Big Ben should have a safe year. And then they’ve got McFarland the rookie. And they’ve got Benny Snell who’s breathing down Conner’s neck. He wants to get more reps, but he didn’t really wow us last year, so I’m not sold. I’m staying away.
Tim:
Do you want me to rubber-stamp that? I’m not sold.
Seattle Seahawks
Joe:
I’m not sold. Seattle Seahawks. By the way, we’re going to every team, we’ve looked at every depth chart on their team pages. Russell Wilson, safe and solid, like him. Chris Carson’s got company with Carlos Hyde. Carlos Hyde a pest. He’s going to be a pest.
Tim:
He’s a big pest, guys.
Joe:
I know.
Tim:
I mean, come on.
Joe:
Lockett, Metcalf, I don’t think they’re fully sold on these receivers. Hence, why they really want Antonio Brown. Greg Olsen, old, washed up, move on.
San Francisco 49ers
Joe:
49ers staying with this entire offense. Aiyuk is appealing. Samuel’s appealing, but again, banged up a little bit. Kittle, primary target in my investing second-round pick, no. Raheem Mostert, McKinnon, what a disaster. Staying away from the situation. Although, there is some appeal with Mostert later.
Tim:
Yeah, if the price is right, why not?
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Joe:
All right, Buccaneers, Ronald Jones, apparently he’s slated high on the depth chart. They brought McCoy in for some reason, don’t know why he’s going to be a pest I think. Again, the way I view Ronald Jones is the way I view James White. I think it’s going to be a similar type of situation. He’s going to get some work on the passing game, going to be safe and solid. Good flex play but not a guy I’m overly excited about, but a decent value in drafts. They’ve got rookie Ke’Shawn Vaughn there. They’ve got Dare Ogunbowale in there as well. So Ogunbowale could come in and get some work. Mike Evans and Godwin, second, third round ADPs on these guys. Who’s it going to be, Tim? Let’s roll the dice.
Tim:
I don’t know, man.
Joe:
Who’s going to be the guy?
Tim:
It’s so 50/50 here.
Joe:
It’s only going to be one.
Tim:
Well, yeah. But, I can’t call which one, it’s so damn close.
Joe:
I’m torn. I think it’s going to be Godwin, but who knows. Gronkowski again, I mean, apparently they’re saying he’s back in shape.
Tim:
Is it the old connection working again, I don’t know. I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s going to be as high as it used to be.
Joe:
I like Brady. Brady is the only guy I really trust because he’s got great targets around him.
Tennessee Titans
And then you’ve got Tennessee Titans. I still like Derrick Henry. I don’t know, something’s telling me I’m not as sold on Derrick Henry as I was last year.
Tim:
Why not, right? Pinnacle years. So you like to talk about all these other guys that had pinnacle years declining. Henry might decline a little bit but…
Joe:
That’s what I’m feeling.
Tim:
You know what, and I crapped on him last year a little. I wasn’t as high on him as you were. This year, I kind of see it justified. He should still be up there.
Joe:
Yeah, Darryton Evans the rookie, not a threat. A. J. Brown, love him. I think they’re going to be throwing to him more this year. Man, it’s going to be interesting to see how much volume he gets. Jonnu Smith could be a safe tight end and I love Tannehill as a guy that was really coming on near the mid to end of the season. I love him. Great value and a quarterback sleeper.
Washington Football Team
Joe:
Washington, other than McLaurin I’m staying away. Now Bryce Love, moving his way up the depth chart but Peterson is there, the veteran who just doesn’t want to go away. The reason Peterson is still there in my opinion is he just wants to break records. He just wants to keep the legacy safe.
Tim:
Look at what he did last year when he came back, man. It was pretty amazing.
Joe:
Safe. He can still do it. Not on the level, he did with the Vikings years ago, but he can still get it done. Haskins, Allen, Alex Smith, it’s going to be a bit of a battle there. Alex Smith now back into shape. We’re going to see what happens there. McLaurin’s the safest guy here. He’s the best wide receiver on the team. He’s going to get the volume. Jeremy Sprinkle, Logan Thomas, the tight ends, just forget about it, man.
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